Hey! That F-51 doesn't have the Zero Length launch rails for the HVARS! They must be an add on? By Korea they should be carrying about 10!
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WIP = Work in Progress ;)

@Zapatista

It is a very thin line between being passionate about something and being rude... And you are not even walking it... You are way over it. Re-read your post... it`s a bunch of self-conflicting nonsense... I am sure you meant well, but it came out the usual way.

People can argue with that because its just a load of nonsense from some fool who has no idea how long a modern computer game engine/game takes to build.

The team doing the IL2 console game were given a FULL WORKING ENGINE which has been developed over 8 years and just had to add content to it.

Maddox games had to BUILD A MORE MODERN GAME FROM SCRATCH.

It obvious some of you guys have no idea how long it takes to build a full simulator of the quality Oleg is looking for.

'Are we there yet Are we there yet Are we there yet Are we there yet...' :-x

There's a BoB alpha? Great!

Nice to see things are developing. Don't hurry too much, can't afford a new machine anytime soon.

i re-read it, and replaced "accurate and truthfull" with "correct" in one sentence. aside from that i dont see anything inaccurate or specifically rude in my post.

btw, i dont think most of the long term il2 fans here have a problem with BoB not being released yet. if that is the amount of time it takes for a dedicated and professional software team to make the next quantum leap in ww2 flightsim for the pc, thats fine by most of us. sure to some extent we are all impatient to get onto the next fairground ride, but that is normal human emotional enthusiasm and is not the issue here.

the problem is that the current fan base is not being managed very well. for a long time since the 1946 release we have been sustained by our faith in oleg only, but that has been in a complete vacuum of information. then on october 15 2007 oleg posted in this new 1c forum ...


after that revival for a while there seemed to be semi regular BoB news and new screenshots posted, which has wet our appetite again and increased expectations of further updates.

then we had again a large unexplained silent period for several months, where from 03-21-2008 till yesterday nothing new was posted in updates by oleg or his team (which is almost 3 months ago).

suddenly this week we discover indirectly and completely out of the blue that a new game under the name of il2 is being released for consoles, and this new game looks very much like the new BoB scenery and plane sets, with no mention of the pc hardware platform. when pandemonium then breaks out we get a short post with a few new screenshots from oleg (thanks oleg), but it then turns out ALL those screenshots are from aircraft develloped by a 3e party (the korean sim group).

even those loyalists amongst us that dont drink are starting to reach for the vodka bottle :)

I agree with some of the points you made in this post. I still think that a dev blog would be good. Oleg should just assign someone in his team to make a little update around 3-4 weeks or so if he hasnt the time personally. (he just has to point on the image, "you can show that, that you can't show etc) Language isn't a problem. If it's in russian we in the community have ways to get some basic translations.

I wonder who will do the cockpit for it :)

Zapatista, you make some good points. But in your former post you said you don't believe Ilya which implies that you think he is lying. And this is not the only thing that's rude or assumptive in your post.

But I have to agree that since there was no explanation whatsoever before this BoP turned up - it is natural that most of the people think it's SoW. I mean the trailer is about the BoB - this way or the other - and the first SoW installment will be the BoB. The only thing we poor unknowing things can make of this: This must be the SoW engine! At least SoW terrain and models.

I'm happy about the update now, I'm happy about the posts from Oleg and Ilya and I still can't wait for this game :)

And to defend this forum a little: There are as many mature posters here as imature posters and I bet most of the mature readers don't post at all, they are just looking for news. I hope that in Future the imature posts just get overlooked by the 1C/RRG team and they concentrate on the serious questions. There was a lot of positive feedback and there are some questions and suggestions which I would like to be taken seriously.

S!

I agree. I think that some of the more recent posts accusing the participants in this thread as whiners/arrogant/ignorant are over the line. The uproar on the forums over the BOP bombshell going off on Friday is understandable and the emotional waves are going high. Why that is has been explained already.

Personally, I am much more irritated by posts that ask for flyables as soon as a little new unexpected plane points it's nose in a screenshot or by posts that immediatly critisize planes that are WIP as we all know. Most people who ask for updates or ask misplaced questions about game-developpment time (because they don't know better) are only motivated by enthousiasm, which is nothing else than love. Love is not a reason to discredit someone.