JG27 fanboy.......... ;) Ginger Lacey FTW!

We picked JG27 because they were in nearly all theatres, not because of Marseille ;) besides, he was in I Gruppe, we are in II Gruppe...

Forget the historians, this is better :) I always love to hear these chaps talking about their experiences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVTw-WuVes

As the fine gentlemen explains two pilots can claim the same victory, it happened allot, Ive seen it in the AAR's by our squadron and the stats showed that two had attacked the same only 1 aircraft not 2. All sides over claimed but no one can refute that the German scoring system was the most robust...

I think allot of the over claiming in Africa was due to the lack of personnel on the ground who would have been witnesses had the theatre not been so open and vast. Another theory I have is if an aircraft vanishes over a sandune and the sun reflects and gives a "flash" it would be easy to think he had crashed and exploded.

Theres a brilliant chapter in Mike Spick's book about what actually constitutes a victory... I dont think a victory is as clear cut as the destruction of an aircraft although the airforces of the world certainly did and do think so...

Your a football fan arn't you Osprey...

The fog of war....further clouded by the fog of 70 years gone by. They were all heroes in my book, on both sides, including the newbie pilots that got shot down on their initial sorties. Both sides also desperately needed to publicize the airmen's achievements to help bolster morale with a war weary public. All to say, what was......was.

That explains the sabre rattling pre match... :-P

You remind me of this: ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU

As much as I like Mitchell he knows absolutely nothing at all about this stuff and what surrounds it. In the past I've been a season ticket holder for several years, lots of away days and even played a few seasons for the supporters club when I was fit enough. One thing I can say is that the game has such a broad spectrum of people who like it, support it and follow it that you just plain don't have single stereotypes. I'm sure David would be disappointed to learn that the groups of fans who do the chanting are very much a minority in a crowd and largely under 30.

JG27 - Come and have a go if you think you're 'ard enough.......... :)

Can never quite bring yourself to press that 5 button before JG27 can you. O well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8fs...eature=related

I do, just not all the time.

Just for you though

5./JG27