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jg27_mc 12-23-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SNAFU (Post 372474)
Understanding that the Battle of Britian Scenario is more or less laid beside is a pitty, but commercial logically. Makes it easier for me to completly shift to DCS, because I have little interest in Barbarossa Sceanrio. Unitl 3rd party devolopment is in the position to provide what is needed for the BoB scenario some years will go by.

So thank you B6 for the info and thx Luthier for the clear words.

+ 1 million

It's a shame that the most important air battle of history (IMHO) has been reproduced on this simulation the way it is... I fell completely cheated! Damn this thing had a huge potential... :shock:

5./JG27.Farber 12-23-2011 02:47 PM

Thanks for the Christmas present Black 6.

Have a good one! :razz:

SYN_Repent 12-23-2011 02:58 PM

glad i got a refund :grin:

Insuber 12-23-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 372552)
Show me those posts and I may believe it. Right now I don't. Quite honestly I doubt anyone playing a historical simulation with such a blatant disregard of historical facts ... Sorry Ilya, that doesn't float that particular boat. :roll:

+1 Thor. He probably refers to another forum, or maybe another game :)

rollnloop 12-23-2011 03:00 PM

I don't expect much from 1C, since the CoD release and Oleg left the sinking boat, but everyone needs to face facts imo: Luthier or anyone else can't develop much nor fix the game without money, and patching won't make money.

If the sequel is good (and it will need to be because there won't be many preorders, this whatever CoD receives in term of patches, i guarantee), then patching CoD via the sequel is a non issue. If sequel is not good enough, serie is dead, and Luthier is probably very much aware of this, as all of us, happy or upset customers, are, so switching every effort to make the sequel good is not the worst option imho.

This said, i won't preorder sequel, and won't buy it until it works as well as IL2 does, so make it good this time if you want my money :cool:

csThor 12-23-2011 03:17 PM

The way I am reading things - and I admit that the following contains pure speculation on my part - I am beginning to believe that Maddox Games consider CloD a failed effort and not worth the hassle to fix it. Rewriting the engine (FM, sound, GUI ... anything left that'll not be changed?) tells me that the current engine is not salvagable. IMO the new management 1C got when it merged with Softklub last year is another factor in this (read: money grabbers).

If BoM is indeed all that Ilya wanted for CloD then that would be nice, but from my PoV - and I have been an ardent fan of the Il-2 series and I have done little bits and things for almost each version of the game, at least until Oleg departed - that product will have to be just as big a hit as the original Il-2 was. It needs to be thematically sound, needs to have all the relevant objects and aircraft, it will need a much less complicated and nerve-wracking GUI, it will need a campaign system that is worth the title ... In short it will need to contain everything that CloD is missing right now. That's a tall order, especially since Maddox Games was never particularly good at developing gameplay factors or not wasting effort on pointless objects/aircraft. :|

klem 12-23-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SYN_Repent (Post 372559)
glad i got a refund :grin:

You still here?

KG26_Alpha 12-23-2011 03:25 PM

The Q & A make no sense to me........it reads like a suicide note.




:confused:

SYN_Repent 12-23-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by klem (Post 372566)
You still here?

why wouldnt i be??

Insuber 12-23-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 372568)
The Q & A make no sense to me........it reads like a suicide note.




:confused:

I'm not that negative Alpha. I don't see more bad news than before, rather some good news about FM, GUI and mergeability of BoM and CoD. The only worrying issue is the patch for CoD, which imo is not in sight yet.


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