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Spudkopf 02-24-2016 09:17 AM

Oh and remember my first scale drawing.......


https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...67112157_o.jpg

_1SMV_Gitano 02-24-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 712434)
This one......

I could probably build that from what I'm currently building.

These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall, as the picture shows. There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007

Spudkopf 02-24-2016 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 712436)
These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall, as the picture shows. There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007

Just a quick and dirty proof of concept based on the previous model, maybe this design as the default as it will use less polys......

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...13534495_o.jpg

Spudkopf 02-24-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 712436)
These ones too were made of stone. In some cases they were reinforced with earth on the external wall

Well thus far I've been designing the large type 3 "C" revetment around the 200 litre oil drum idea, but using a stone wall with rammed earth would be far easier to do and have other benefits like.....

1. Use far less polys

2. Be easier to skin

3. By changing the skin (grass, wood, concrete, etc) the same revetment could be used in other theaters

4. In the end can be made to look overall more realistic at all viewing distances including from inside the cockpit due to less reliance on circular features (IMO)

So I'd probably prefer to go in that direction, sticking to stone/cement for the larger revetment and then instead using the oil drum method to build the smaller type 1 "square walled" revetment which again with different skinning could be re-utilised in multiple theaters?

So what's your opinion?

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Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 712436)
There were plenty of these in Axis MTO airfields, mainly in Italy. They should be able to house a medium bomber like e.g. Ju88/He111/CantZ1007

Here's the current revised 200 litre oil drum revetment, using basically the existing dimensions of the original design but with a hexagonal internal wall, as you can see still fits a Ju88 or a He111 comfortably.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...337719df51849b

Spudkopf 02-25-2016 02:32 AM

Here's a stone one I threw together.....

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...31599892_o.jpg

https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...76&oe=57673ED4

https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2b&oe=57634180

Spudkopf 02-25-2016 05:36 AM

I Google'd Castelvetrano airfield, Sicily and found this image of the large type 2 Y shaped a revetment located Trapani-Milo.

http://www.forgottenairfields.com/up...tment-2011.jpg

So I decided to do a little aerial reconnaissance and found.....

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e7&oe=57660AD8

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f8&oe=575291A3

From these remains I should be able to work out the dimensions and wall thickness for this type of revetment, from the start these pens seem more Y shaped than the the photo interpreters drawing key.

All around the boundaries of the airfield there are numerous piles of scattered rocks, and the odd depression, no doubt remnants of other demolished revetments.

Here's the google map reference, if you want to have a poke around for yourselves:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...a8c28bc2deb252

Sita 02-25-2016 06:06 AM

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looks like some part missing ...

Spudkopf 02-25-2016 06:18 AM

G'day Sita

The first google map images is the same pen as that in the ground level image.

It is mostly intact and there is enough of the foot print left to work it, there is obviously a rear entrance as seen in the ground photo that splits the revetment into two halves.

_1SMV_Gitano 02-25-2016 07:21 AM

Good finding Spud. The scheme I posted of the "Y" revetment was made indeed from Castelvetrano. It is a post-Husky survey plan made 'on the field' by Aviation Engineers so I would take those dimensions as correct. Nice job in the "C" type!

Sita 02-25-2016 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 712451)
Nice job in the "C" type!


about C-type ... i still didn't find any photo evidence in internet about that thing and about using fuel barrels in it ... so i have some doubts ...


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