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Wutz 12-23-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TeeJay82 (Post 206108)
w00t? there have never been more flyables in a ww2 air sim.

what you focus on is up to you :)
and apparantly its the spits and me109

If you had read my post correctly I never denyied that we had many flyables. But of those many how many are really used on servers? I think if one is optimistic a good 30% you will never see, even though we have them.

I was just stating that the main attention does seem to be going towards the furballers and less towards the mission friends.
But that is just my opinion, and I do believe I may voice it, just like everyone else?

Sita 12-23-2010 10:48 AM

any chanse to see cockpit for SwordFish in future paths? in 4.11 for example?)

Avimimus 12-23-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wutz (Post 206104)
Well until IL2 came out every flight sim was a Spits and 109s orgie, IL2 was the first enjoyable exception bringing Russian planes to the screen, that you never got to see anywhere else. But now with the patches we are heading in a direction of sims like EAW and simular, Spits and 109 orgies again. Maybe I am just a old pessimistic grump, but you do have sometimes a feeling 99% of the planes that flew during WWII can be dropped under the table as long as there are Spits & 109s.

I actually agree with this - by the time I got a fast enough connection to fly online all the dogfight servers had gone later war (and often western front). I'm simply not one to enjoy La-7 + Ki-84 + P-51 + Spit IX duels. I like maneuvering combat without many cannons.

So, I don't fly online (as I don't have the time for co-op). I'm hopeful that MDS will open up a more mission oriented dogfight server.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 12-23-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sita (Post 206113)
any chanse to see cockpit for SwordFish in future paths? in 4.11 for example?)


Much probably. We try to make new planes flyable (and some older ones too).
Cannot say, when this will happen though.

FC99 12-23-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wutz (Post 206110)
I was just stating that the main attention does seem to be going towards the furballers and less towards the mission friends.
But that is just my opinion, and I do believe I may voice it, just like everyone else?

Of course that you can voice your opinion, it's just that your opinion and facts doesn't match. If you take a better look at 4.10 plane list you can see that only popular plane there is Spitfire, everything else are bombers and lesser known planes.

"New" Spitfires are new in terms of FM, there are only minor changes in 3d model of some variants which means that only couple of hours were spent on 3d models. Considering importance of the Spitfire in WWII, making some changes in Spitfire family was very efficient in terms of cost/benefit.

For brand new 3d models you need lot more than that. As all members of DT are working on patch in their free time that time is very limited which also limits the number of new 3d models we can make.

That's why we will take any( except planes made by Grumman) 3rd party model done by required standards and include it in game. So if you want plane XXX in game you need to find somebody who will make 3d model.

I know, you will ask why DT don't make XXX. Well, answer is simple, we are working for free in our free time and I think that it should be understandable that we have right to spend our free time on things that are fun for us. If making XXX is not fun for any of DT member that is just a bad luck.

FC

fabianfred 12-23-2010 12:42 PM

someone else asked about the FMB triggers but got no reply...any news on them?

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 12-23-2010 12:50 PM

There will be info about left-out-features soon.

Wutz 12-23-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FC99 (Post 206144)
Of course that you can voice your opinion, it's just that your opinion and facts doesn't match. If you take a better look at 4.10 plane list you can see that only popular plane there is Spitfire, everything else are bombers and lesser known planes.

"New" Spitfires are new in terms of FM, there are only minor changes in 3d model of some variants which means that only couple of hours were spent on 3d models. Considering importance of the Spitfire in WWII, making some changes in Spitfire family was very efficient in terms of cost/benefit.

For brand new 3d models you need lot more than that. As all members of DT are working on patch in their free time that time is very limited which also limits the number of new 3d models we can make.

That's why we will take any( except planes made by Grumman) 3rd party model done by required standards and include it in game. So if you want plane XXX in game you need to find somebody who will make 3d model.

I know, you will ask why DT don't make XXX. Well, answer is simple, we are working for free in our free time and I think that it should be understandable that we have right to spend our free time on things that are fun for us. If making XXX is not fun for any of DT member that is just a bad luck.

FC

Don´t get me wrong, I very much appriciate what you fellows are doing!
There just seemed a tendancy towards certain models. That you fellows are already doing a lot & that miricales take a little longer I know very well.
It would have been nice if a non allied twin engine bomber could have been made flyable, like the Ki21 which is as AI available. That it is most likely a lot of work too I know. That is why I am hoping that in SoW maybe the pacific theatre might get a little more attention.
Popular demand just seems to be differant than that what people enjoy, who like flying missions. That is all, nothing more nothing less. So please do not feel offended.

HanneG 12-23-2010 02:02 PM

Sorry if it's been already been mentioned, typo in G-limit section "loose" instead of lose.

JG53Frankyboy 12-23-2010 02:27 PM

also the Do217K didnt came in service 1941 ;)


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