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olife 07-22-2010 05:26 PM

maybe an eurocopter TIGER

Soviet Ace 07-22-2010 05:42 PM

It's another Russian game, so you know they're gonna have that hog of a Mi-24... hopefully the Mi-24D Hind-D variant (purest of all the gunship models put together.) Along with the Mi-24PTRK. (It's like a Hind-D but with some modifications to weapon systems and some weapons themselves. Maybe have a Hind-V variant... :cool:

Damn Soviet ingenuity and its beauty! ;)

FOZ_1983 07-22-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 171238)
It's another Russian game, so you know they're gonna have that hog of a Mi-24... hopefully the Mi-24D Hind-D variant (purest of all the gunship models put together.) Along with the Mi-24PTRK. (It's like a Hind-D but with some modifications to weapon systems and some weapons themselves. Maybe have a Hind-V variant... :cool:

Damn Soviet ingenuity and its beauty! ;)

F**K that!!! Get a good old Huey in their and were laughing!! Couple of rocket pods or side mounted miniguns... all you need!! The sound of those huge rotors to.... epic!!

Keep yer Hind, i'll take the Huey and we can re enact that scene from rambo :D

Edit - its not a hind in rambo is it?? its that other russian piece of crap haha. Ah well we'll make do with a Huey v Hind :P

bobbysocks 07-22-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 171238)
It's another Russian game, so you know they're gonna have that hog of a Mi-24... hopefully the Mi-24D Hind-D variant (purest of all the gunship models put together.) Along with the Mi-24PTRK. (It's like a Hind-D but with some modifications to weapon systems and some weapons themselves. Maybe have a Hind-V variant... :cool:

Damn Soviet ingenuity and its beauty! ;)

Hind? do i get to play the afghan mujahideen with the stinger that shot them down like clay pigeons??

dkwookie 07-22-2010 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 171250)
F**K that!!! Get a good old Huey in their and were laughing!! Couple of rocket pods or side mounted miniguns... all you need!! The sound of those huge rotors to.... epic!!

Keep yer Hind, i'll take the Huey and we can re enact that scene from rambo :D

Edit - its not a hind in rambo is it?? its that other russian piece of crap haha. Ah well we'll make do with a Huey v Hind :P

Well it was meant to be a hind but it was just a Puma dolled up to look like one. Same truck was used in Rambo 3 but they also threw in a dolled up gazelle for a bit of spice.
It was always the same back in the 70s and 80s. I remember first time I saw a real Hind in a film in mid 90s it was a big event

Soviet Ace 07-22-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 171250)
F**K that!!! Get a good old Huey in their and were laughing!! Couple of rocket pods or side mounted miniguns... all you need!! The sound of those huge rotors to.... epic!!

Keep yer Hind, i'll take the Huey and we can re enact that scene from rambo :D

Edit - its not a hind in rambo is it?? its that other russian piece of crap haha. Ah well we'll make do with a Huey v Hind :P

I don't think there were actually any variants of a Huey with air-to-air missiles. (Yes, Soviets actually toyed and were partially successful with air-to-air missiles on their Hinds.) But I'm pretty sure with the Hind's side mounted guns (Hind-Ds had them for infantry support) along with their four rocket pods, twin 12.7mm guns in the nose (or later with the 30mm cannon), and their rocket pods would decimate any Huey you sent its way? :twisted: And yes, it's a Hind in the Rambo movies.

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Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 171253)
Hind? do i get to play the afghan mujahideen with the stinger that shot them down like clay pigeons??

As for that, I'm not sure? Maybe ask Osama how it was using US Stingers. Or maybe how it was dealing with Hind's before the US had to stick their nose in Soviet business. :P

dkwookie 07-22-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 171255)
I don't think there were actually any variants of a Huey with air-to-air missiles. (Yes, Soviets actually toyed and were partially successful with air-to-air missiles on their Hinds.) But I'm pretty sure with the Hind's side mounted guns (Hind-Ds had them for infantry support) along with their four rocket pods, twin 12.7mm guns in the nose (or later with the 30mm cannon), and their rocket pods would decimate any Huey you sent its way? :twisted: And yes, it's a Hind in the Rambo movies.



As for that, I'm not sure? Maybe ask Osama how it was using US Stingers. Or maybe how it was dealing with Hind's before the US had to stick their nose in Soviet business. :P

A Huey would last about 5 seconds up against a Hind. The hinds were not deployed in their correct role in Afganistan. They were tank hunters, which is not a good role against a militia force with no tanks

FOZ_1983 07-22-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 171257)
A Huey would last about 5 seconds up against a Hind. The hinds were not deployed in their correct role in Afganistan. They were tank hunters, which is not a good role against a militia force with no tanks

I think were kind of missing the point i was making here... it was a bit of fun fella's, to try and rile soviet a little ;) and mention the scene in rambo where he fires the AT4 through the window of the huey and shoots down the "hind" which in the film clearly doesnt look anything like a hind... observation haha.

I think its safe to say that a huey would get slaughtered by a hind... but i'd like one in a helicopter game anyway, just to hear the mighty thumping sound of the engine if anything :D

flynlion 07-23-2010 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 171262)
I think its safe to say that a huey would get slaughtered by a hind... but i'd like one in a helicopter game anyway, just to hear the mighty thumping sound of the engine if anything :D

There's only about 20 years of development seperating the 2. Might as well put a Hurricane up against an F-104 :-P

But I agree that any hellicopter combat game needs a Huey, if only for the sound of that big 2 bladed rotor.

Soviet Ace 07-23-2010 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dkwookie (Post 171257)
A Huey would last about 5 seconds up against a Hind. The hinds were not deployed in their correct role in Afganistan. They were tank hunters, which is not a good role against a militia force with no tanks

Well they were tank and people hunters. Most of the Hind's in Afghanistan though, were equipped more for attacking ground forces than actually tanks, but they just didn't have the ability to combat their Stinger foe. Basically any helicopter is susceptible to an enemy missile or rocket launcher. Like the use of RPG-7s in Somalia in the 90s against the Black Hawks or in Vietnam during the 60s-70s against Hueys. Transport/Gunships just don't quite cut it, but do good as they can get troops in and out of hot zones pretty fast. (That's why they had Air Cav.)

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 171262)
I think were kind of missing the point i was making here... it was a bit of fun fella's, to try and rile soviet a little ;) and mention the scene in rambo where he fires the AT4 through the window of the huey and shoots down the "hind" which in the film clearly doesnt look anything like a hind... observation haha.

I think its safe to say that a huey would get slaughtered by a hind... but i'd like one in a helicopter game anyway, just to hear the mighty thumping sound of the engine if anything :D

I got it, and like always I have to bring in the big guns and show off what Soviet ingenuity has to offer against your Capitalist scrap metal. :P

As for the game, they could always add the Russian Ka-50s. They're the helicopters that have one pilot, kinda look like a Russian Cobra or Apache.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...amov_Ka-50.jpg


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