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TRC Subaru 01-19-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SEE (Post 137478)
We do need a petition and I have started a thread for that. Early days but I have a response from MS and a petition will add weight to our plea for help. Details on the thread - petition only and no comments. Thanks

Hi Evangelus, what was the “response from MS” that you received?

jkerr419 01-19-2010 06:32 PM

Sorry guys been really hectic at work. Just seeing what else needs to be done? I know some have already started contacting forums and game reviewers. Let keep the momentum going!

LostInSpace 01-19-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jkerr419 (Post 136471)
If we are all in agreement for a post/letter drive I say we get this moving. I think we should come up with a list of bullet points for our letter/posts. Once we have that we will need an English Major or someone with strong grammar skills to put this together. (sorry I'm an IT guy) From there we can assign a couple of people to do the postings. (if we are mailing, I say the more the merrier, I can host a word doc online for everyone to access to print and send) We should also come up with a list of sites we want to send this to... both posts and emails.

Sorry if I'm jumping the gun or stepping on anyones toes but I want to get this out of planning asap! The quicker the better. I'll also create a list of potential online places to post our letter. If you guys don't like this idea just let me know and i'll drop it. Thanks for any input.


(Here is a working list of sites I think will help)

Ign.com
Gameinformer.com
Ripoffreport.com
http://www.complaints.com/
http://www.planetfeedback.com/
http://consumerist.com/
http://complaintblogs.com/
http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/complaints/
http://www.consumeraffairs.com
gamespot.com
gamespy.com
g4tv.com

I'm also trying to tract down contact info for some of 505's upper managment. For our UK friends....

Suite 366 Silbury Court Silbury Boulevard
Milton Keynes
MK9 2AF
United Kingdom

Contact: Mark Allen
+44 (0)1908 607772

(more to come)

For our US friends... their linkedin profiles

http://www.linkedin.com/companies/505-games

Bravo jkerr419! I have to say I'm impressed with your effort so far and I wish I had more time to help. I'll see what I can do. If anyone posts anything on another website please provide a link so we can back you up.

imnotgeoff 01-20-2010 11:41 AM

is there something we can start puttin on other forums,it would be better and more consistant if we had the same thing to post/send to other sites

fritzwendel 01-20-2010 06:19 PM

I received a response from 505 Games today via email

"Many thanks for your enquiry and feedback on IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey



We are investigating the development of a X360 patch and appreciate the importance of continuously evaluating and improving the game play experience. Although I am unable to confirm if and when this will be available, we will certainly update the community as soon as we know.



Thanks again for your email"

jkerr419 01-20-2010 09:13 PM

Add me to the list. I've have also received the exact same email from 505.

XR62MIB 01-20-2010 09:53 PM

Website is ready
 
Let me know when your ready for the Anti 505 website. Proof that its ready for content. http://www.505sucks.com/
:evil:

SEE 01-21-2010 01:00 PM

Following the statement from 505 which cleverley addresses two issues we have with them:-

1. Failure to communicate with its customers.

2. Lack of committment to the Xbox platform following the release of the PS3 Title update.

We are investigating the development of a X360 patch and appreciate the importance of continuously evaluating and improving the game play experience. Although I am unable to confirm if and when this will be available, we will certainly update the community as soon as we know.

It's a non commital reply as to whether a patch will be released but the use of the word 'development' suggests that a patch was never submitted or completed for the Xbox. Somehow we need to get the evidence that they have the patch and it was submitted to them some time ago. Reading through Antons previous comms suggets that they did submit it

Can we prove that and how?

We have to maintain the pressure on 505 by shifting the argument to another issue otherwise they will simply continue to respond with the same non-commital reply.

If anyone has access to all of the devs responses, particularly those that state the patches were completed and submitted to 505 and time frames............post them here!

We have to challenge their use of 'Investigating the development' in that statement.

Rufus_the_Rat 01-21-2010 02:56 PM

Okay I added this issue to 505 games Wikipedia entry under the Criticism section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/505_Games.

Here is what I wrote (let me know if anyone thinks it needs to be changed somehow): "In early 2010, 505 Games has been criticized by customers for failing to release a game-fixing patch for the Xbox 360 version of IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey, even though the same patch was released for the PS3 version. Comments by the developers of IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey reveal that the patch has reportedly been finished but has been sitting in limbo for months awaiting approval.[1]"

I would be appreciative if people out there who are trying to help with this issue could keep an eye on that Wikipedia page every once in a while to make sure 505 games (or some other anal Wikipedia editor) hasn't removed that bit, and to add it again if they do.

SEE 01-21-2010 03:31 PM

Need to refer and quote the relevant statements (from the devs) to support the argument that 505 are already in receipt of, or have access to, a Xbox Patch that addresses common game improvements. Otherwise it's an assumption (or claim) that can be questioned.


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