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FOZ_1983 10-24-2009 01:50 PM
I'll take the 109k and the P51D and i'll do the same quick easy test i did with the hurricane and LA-7, unless someone else want to?

MorgothNL 10-24-2009 03:45 PM
I dont think it is correct to do any tests dat involve the P-51, before the patch... its not performing at all like it should, or like it will

FOZ_1983 10-24-2009 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 113819)
I dont think it is correct to do any tests dat involve the P-51, before the patch... its not performing at all like it should, or like it will
Tell me about it!!!

Though i think the speed is fairly correct, but the amount of time it takes to get to that speed is wrong...along with everythnig else :(

Panzergranate 10-30-2009 02:06 PM
I was surprised to find that a Spitfire IX can climb a heck of a lot faster than a Me-262 jet in BOP, especially as I was the one pulling the vertical climb with the Me-262 (202 MPH in BOP maximum).

It is quite annoying when such "holes" in the realism crop up. There are so many of them, both obvious and subtle, that is causing the patch to be delayed..... there is so much that needs fixing.

MorgothNL 10-30-2009 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Panzergranate (Post 116073)
that is causing the patch to be delayed..... there is so much that needs fixing.
Thats not true ;), the patch had been finished a long time ago. They did not delay the patch over and over because the want to add stuff in the patch.

SgtPappy 10-30-2009 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Panzergranate (Post 116073)
I was surprised to find that a Spitfire IX can climb a heck of a lot faster than a Me-262 jet in BOP, especially as I was the one pulling the vertical climb with the Me-262 (202 MPH in BOP maximum).

It is quite annoying when such "holes" in the realism crop up. There are so many of them, both obvious and subtle, that is causing the patch to be delayed..... there is so much that needs fixing.
From the data I've read, I'm currently under the impression that a Spitfire LF.IX with standard 100 grade octane can actually maintain a higher SUSTAINED rate of climb than a 262.

But the zoom climb at the same given speed, should always be won by the heavy, aerodynamically superior and massive thrusted Me 262.

Crusader00001 11-06-2009 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 113780)
You sure of this? My information says the P51D had a top speed of 438mph with WEP at 24,500ft, which is a lot more than I can get out of a P51D ingame, only gives 355mph at this altitude, but is below the K4's top speed of 452mph at 22,000ft.

The only Mustang varient faster than this was the P51H(487mph at 25,000ft), but this was only just coming into service when the war ended in Japan, and as far as I know no plane of this mark saw combat.
Seraph,
I've noticed references to the P-51's - flaws, speed, etc. But, I'm not seeing any formal descriptions in your guide, or in the subsequent updates? Just curious...

Ancient Seraph 11-06-2009 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusader00001 (Post 117886)
Seraph,
I've noticed references to the P-51's - flaws, speed, etc. But, I'm not seeing any formal descriptions in your guide, or in the subsequent updates? Just curious...
This is because the P-51's model isn't as it should be, and, well, it's crap at the moment. It's not impossible to fly, it's just not very smart to do so. I'm waiting for the patch to add the P-51, as it should be corrected by then.

MorgothNL 11-06-2009 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph (Post 117900)
This is because the P-51's model isn't as it should be, and, well, it's crap at the moment. It's not impossible to fly, it's just not very smart to do so. I'm waiting for the patch to add the P-51, as it should be corrected by then.
maybe what Crusader00001 is saying, is that you should just add the P-51 in the guide, and mention that it is crap.
It is a beginners guide... and a beginner might not know about the P-51 errors, and might think its his fault it wont fly.

Ancient Seraph 11-07-2009 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 117922)
maybe what Crusader00001 is saying, is that you should just add the P-51 in the guide, and mention that it is crap.
It is a beginners guide... and a beginner might not know about the P-51 errors, and might think its his fault it wont fly.
Good point. I'll see when I can add it.


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