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Soviet Ace 09-29-2009 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pubestien13 (Post 106150)
You can't really compare the F-22 to anything because its a new stage in evolution of the fighter. For all the money and complicated systems in the
F22 it pays off. On several ocasion's while testing, the F-22 went up against 5-1, 7-1, 10-1 engagements and has come out on top. So your getting your moneys worth.

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Originally Posted by Pubestien13 (Post 106152)
And if you want to engage the F-22 on an even plain you'll most likely need an equal capable, expensive, and advanced plane.

To answer both of those, the Su-37 is the Russian answer to the American F-22. So the comparison is reasonable.

tango2delta 09-29-2009 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mattd27 (Post 106112)
They called some of them "Night Witches" I believe? Because they did a lot of bombing raids during the night presumably.

Night Witches is correct:)

FOZ_1983 09-29-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pubestien13 (Post 106148)
In real life I have no problem with most WW2 russian aircraft like a said before. It sickens me that planes that are suppused to out monuever other planes can't because somebody forgot to carry the 1 over in the programing. Again realistic is fine. For example I just finnished a realistic match and a player with a spitfire out monuevered my 109 in a turn a few times.


your playing arcade. Enough said.

Arcade doesnt take all these things into consideration, its the easy dificulty that just lets you all fly around shooting each other. You have openly admitted that on realistic things performed differently, such as your 109 getting out turned etc by a spitfire. If you ant things to be how they should (or as close to) then play realistic and not arcade (or play sim even more hardcore :D )

Its when you go into realistic and you get your ass handed to you by the guy in the other plane that all this knowledge will help you!! next time your enemy takes a spit.... try the yak or the La..... then see him try to out turn you.

Pubestien13 09-29-2009 08:54 PM

hhhhhhhhhh... its getting old doing this circle talk. Realistic mode isn't fun half the time because you have to more worry about not stalling and spinning out of control with no chance of recover. And yes I have adjusted my sesitvity and it does help. I don't see how my knowledge of choosing a plane to use that I know that I have a disavantage with qualifies as getting my "ass handed to me", while trying to get acheive more wins to unlock the Bf-109 G-10.

And I still find it hard to beleive that the Su-37 is on an even plain with the
F-22. So far to my knowledge the only thing they have in common is thrust vectoring technology.

Pubestien13 09-29-2009 08:55 PM

Although it would be a good match.

Dubbedinenglish 09-30-2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pubestien13 (Post 106510)
Although it would be a good match.

Far from it, the 37 would be flying around until a missile impacted it.

The F-22 is stealth, the 37 is not.

FOZ_1983 09-30-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pubestien13 (Post 106508)
hhhhhhhhhh... its getting old doing this circle talk. Realistic mode isn't fun half the time because you have to more worry about not stalling and spinning out of control with no chance of recover. And yes I have adjusted my sesitvity and it does help. I don't see how my knowledge of choosing a plane to use that I know that I have a disavantage with qualifies as getting my "ass handed to me", while trying to get acheive more wins to unlock the Bf-109 G-10.

And I still find it hard to beleive that the Su-37 is on an even plain with the
F-22. So far to my knowledge the only thing they have in common is thrust vectoring technology.

Ok.....


realistic mode ISNT fun because you spend to much time worrying about trying not to stall etc.....

That IS THE FUN!! i never worry about stalling or spinning and not recovering, i worry about the guy on my 6 who's shooting at me. I know how my plane flies, i know how to deal with it in turns etc so know how not to stall it (unless i purposly want to). Your bashing the game and the planes because people play it the way its meant to be played and not the way you like it!! i strongly suggest you get away from this game and try something else because its clearly not for you.


And to unlock the G10 you dont need wins. Just 100 kills with any of the 109's. Easy to achieve, just takes time and patience.

Robotic Pope 09-30-2009 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 106562)
Ok.....


realistic mode ISNT fun because you spend to much time worrying about trying not to stall etc.....

That IS THE FUN!! i never worry about stalling or spinning and not recovering, i worry about the guy on my 6 who's shooting at me. I know how my plane flies, i know how to deal with it in turns etc so know how not to stall it (unless i purposly want to). Your bashing the game and the planes because people play it the way its meant to be played and not the way you like it!! i strongly suggest you get away from this game and try something else because its clearly not for you.


And to unlock the G10 you dont need wins. Just 100 kills with any of the 109's. Easy to achieve, just takes time and patience.

I 100% agree.

Oh and its the Me109K that needs 100 kills to unlock. You DO need wins for the G-10. 40 Team/dogfight wins I think.

FOZ_1983 09-30-2009 01:34 AM

Ah yeah your right. My fault.

But why would he want to unlock it? all he plays is arcade and he doesnt care how planes perform etc...... so whats the point? unless its the achievement he's after for unlocking all planes?

Just seems odd.

The G10 is nice to fly btw ;) good luck getting it.

BadByte 09-30-2009 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish (Post 106559)

The F-22 is stealth, the 37 is not.

Meh whats the point?, they're both "last generation" next is unmanned aircraft which are cheaper, lower price, lower maintance. I would like to see either one of them try a 1 on X "how many unmanned one could buy for the price of one (1) f22/su37" and then see who wins.


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