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Originally Posted by MorgothNL (Post 103557)

Bit of a strange argument :confused:, can you image any game at all, that would word with that idea in the back of your head?

the WW2 pilots didnt play for FUN, they fought for and with their lives. We play a game, for fun (or so I think we are). An ace in a jet, against any piston plane, isnt fun.
And no, the WW2 pilots didnt say 'meh, they have jets, Im outa here'. We have a choice, and we can try to get an option of switching jets off.

game - real life
choice/fun - no choice/not funny

^^ you see the difference

a simple option of turning them off wouldnt bother many people. I agree they should be in the game, but I also agree that they ruin a lot of games.
So, is a on/off button so strange to wish for ?

PS. no I dont really mind a jet opponent, I mind them in my own team, because they will give you one less dogfighter. Just a guy who zooms by now and then
As an opponent:
1. he's not an ace -> they have one guy 'less' (a noob in a jet is not even 1/4 as dangerous as a noob in a piston).
^^ this sucks because I dont want an easy victory

2. he's an ace.. and there is NOTHING you can do about it, not even if you are better them him in your piston. If he knows how to fy it, there is no chance you can kill him

so, no, dont mind jets, but also, there is no way they make the game more fun

Again though, turning the jets off because you dont like them would be like turning machine guns off in a FPS because you personally didn't like them. Sure you can do it, but are you better for it, or just proving your lack of skill to play the game you bought by ignoring a major factor because it doesn't suit your own personal play style?

All the games I host (which is pretty much every game I play as I get bored looking for games) is 1946, so if you come to my game, please leave complaints at the door! (not you personally it was an open statement)

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Originally Posted by Wissam24 (Post 103523)

And yes, I play on Sim as much as I can. And hardly anyone takes the jets in Sim, because they're absurdly hard to use in that mode.

i vividly remember the 262's engines catching on fire all the time because you throttled up too fast on the PC version.

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Originally Posted by Wissam24 (Post 103548)

Well, I for one cannot fathom what the Po-2 is doing in there. Considering it has NO forward firing guns, and the bombs it carries are rather the suck, it's pointless.

Well seeing that the Po-2 is a bomber/recon plane, and not meant to dogfight. If they did have a forward firing gun, it would just add weight and considering the plane is like a WW1 plane, it would need a really light MG to be placed, not like the WW2 heavy MGs like in many many many, fighters etc.

Well..yes. Hence, my point

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Originally Posted by akuma (Post 103568)

I agree with you there. Jets are perfectly fine to use. They were put in the game and are legitimate planes... Don't forget that although games are for fun, sometimes the fun is the challenge.

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 103570)

I think he means in game terms, not reality terms. The bombs, at least in terms of taking out Strike targets, are absolutely pathetic, and since there's no point in an unarmed (or near-unarmed) recon plane in the game, it does seem kind of pointless.

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Originally Posted by akuma (Post 103568)

I do agree on that argument ;). And yes, it is because it doesnt suit my playing style, or the style of the game I want to play. (personal opinion is ok right ?;))

and my games are also 1946, because I dont want to lose planes like the LA-7 (not flying it myself). I just hope people dont take a jet. if they do, and I really dont like it at the moment, I will ask them to take another plane. 9/10 times they do, wich is great :). if not, so be it

What we need, is a squadron set up only to fly He-126 Salamanders! Me-262s and Me-163 Komets just seem to be very broad in most aspects, the He-126, just seems to be more flexable? I dunno.

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Originally Posted by Wissam24 (Post 103579)

Gaz gets me!

Woo-hoo! :grin:

I think the important distinction that needs to be made here is this;

Game - for fun
Reality - not for fun

;)