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- - PS3 Joysticks (http://forum.fulqrumpublishing.com/showthread.php?t=9128)

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Originally Posted by Graiskye (Post 99446)

I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.
After you all go through 2 or 3 of the cheap ones youll realise I am right, there isnt anything that is much harder on a joystic than trying to dogfight with one. If you want a real experience you have to go PC, and a buy z cougar from thrustmater(299.00) most everything else is pure shite comparatively.
The cheap sticks will work, for a bit, dont get me wrong, but they will break down very quickly, iv had 'premum' logitech stiks last less than a day efore the pots were out of whack, and fighting wit them became unbearable.
If the comapany cares about tthe game, which I doubt, they are just hoping to sell a few billion copies, which they figure probably most of then willk sit on the shelf after the inital buzz wears off, Il2 can forget about their console 'joke' and get back to 'real simming', OR they will take the consolers serious(I hope this happens) and they will get put into play a joystick that can actually handle the rigors of dogfighting and can be hooked to an X box,PS-3. I am not sure if the Cougar for Thrustmaster will work ona PS 3 but if it will, this is the stik to get. The Cougar is damn near indestructible, made of metal, and modeled off a f-16 actual joystick in the cockpit.
Have fun with this stuff, but realize if the joystick is cheap you are getting a cheap joystick, DUH.
-Grais

I don't reccomend the cougar unless you want to upgrade the pots on that plus the gimbal - which wears out.

The Ch fighterstick, while not metal like the cougar, works out of the box and is more precise - about as precise as my cougar was after dumping 500 in custom upgrades.

have you guys heard about the new Saitek X-65?

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Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 100591)

In title update (for PS3 only though) there will be deadzone customization.

This is awesome news.

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Originally Posted by trk29 (Post 100604)

This is awesome news.

+1

Thanks Anton. Looks like the best just got better ;)

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Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 100638)

It is simply digital on PS3 and analogue on PC/360.
Nothing we can do.

:(
Oh well thanks for clarifying.

I have sent Saitek a email with my concerns I hope everybody with a ps3 and AV8R 03 will do the same. Here is what I sent them

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Hello,
As a forum moderator and owner of IL-2 Sturmovik Birds of Prey, we as ps3 gamers have just found out of a problem with the AV8R 03 for the Playstation 3.
The twist in the stick for rudder is digital whereas the twist of the stick on the AV8R 02 XBox is analog.
What does this mean? When you apply rudder on the AV8R 03 it is either all the way or centered. So there is no fine adjustment when trying to shoot the opponent.
I have talked to the CEO of Gaijin Anton Yudintsev and he said there is nothing he can do. But I feel you could make a change to your stick because every PS3 user on the forum is aggravated that this button is digital and not analog. Since most people have been saying that they are going to be buying the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas instead of this stick. And now we have another option of using pc flight sticks instead of either one of these.
I own this stick and can confirm the twist is not correct. I think if you really want to sell this stick you should make this change. I thank you for your time in reading this. Have a good day.

Tim

sweet, i can't wait to fully customize my controls on my t-x.:grin:

What about the hat switch on the t.x ? Are we gonna get more than 4 directions for the free look ?

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It is simply digital on PS3 and analogue on PC/360.
Nothing we can do.

Wait, this means that the aviator's on/off rudder can't be fixed? I still can't get my head around this one. So the stick's twistgrip is capable of analog signal (I verified this on my PC using the Av8tor-03 PC/PS3 stick).
If you can program other PC sticks work why can't this one?

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Originally Posted by bussinrounds (Post 100796)

What about the hat switch on the t.x ? Are we gonna get more than 4 directions for the free look ?

All Anton's answers on PS3 Sticks on: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=9697

Goog news for T. Master owners:)

I may have been misunderstood, granted the post was a bit erratic. Cheap sticks will work fine.....for a short time. Thats it. The rigors of flying a plane by joystick fighting combat are simply too hard on the stick for cheap plastic to last much longer the pot holders get broken, worn out, etc, etc...
And yes people cry about their cougars, the sad truth is you cannot please all of the people all of the time.
As to sinking 500 into a cougar flight stick, well I think you answered your own question there, anyone that is going to sink 750.00 into a joystick to play a PC game, well your probably not going too be happy even then are you ? I mean come one 500.00 to customise an already great stick cause what the pot had 1 or 2% drift ? Now come on and post about the litany of problems you had and all you had too do too fix them, why ? Because you have every right in the world too
For every person that stands there with their cougar going my pots suck balls and are worn out, theres ten guys standing behind him smiling, hence, you cannot please all of the people all of the time.
Fly with your 35.00 joystiks, buy one every two weeks see if I give a flying ****, I could care less, Thrustmaster and Logitech and Saitek will love you for it.

I do wish you all the best of luck in finding a stik to let you enjoy your gaming/sim experience, if you are having fun, hell who am I to want to rain on that parade. I just thought it was funny this whole flightstik thing, its sooo old but with the release of the first serious console simm is re born.
Best of luck to you all,
-G.