What an empty argument, still awaiting your sources for your previous arguments roffel.
It's just obvious your spitting shit out of your mouth and all around you just to harass everyone that buys RoF since it doesn't fit your imaginary game of the year, seriously let us pay for it and don't worry about us, I'll tell you after initial release how much of a "waste" it was to pay 50$ on this game.

I'll quote a SIMHQ Admin on this because he said it so well;
You fit the description 99,9 %.

Besides you're going personal about this.. involving my dad and friends as a way to insult me, seriously dude it's way to obvious that you don't have a clue of what you're talking about.

I'd say a ban of you would soon be in place..

Actually Tree is correct. I have the cake and I've eaten it too! :-P

you really cant think rationally, can you ?

go and get all exited with your bestest friends at the RoF forums and swap spit there, nobody from the il2/BoB forums will come and bother you there, just dont come and promote that junk in the il2/BoB forum and expect people to look uncritically at whatever latest toy you get all exited over

learn how to think for yourself if you ever want to understand how the world functions, and maybe start by not blindly quoting things you dont understand

simhq is a commercial venture, and nowadays is a website and forum that is run to make money (it wasnt at its inception, but was later sold by its original creator), and by the looks of that admin post there is a large volume of negative comments on RoF in their forums and simhq is now worried it risks reducing the revenue they can make from RoF game/retail advertisers. if anything their statement is an indication of censorship and how they try to contain negative posts by blocking discussion on this issue (seems most people that intended to, now wont buy the game), in past instances simhq were able to walk the fine line without using censorship and i thought they managed controversial issues fairly well, this time they havnt.

you poor thing, are those nasty people on the internet being rude to you for no reason ? i'll give you a hint, but you'r going to have to start figuring some of your life out yourself because there wont always be nice people like myself to help you out

just re-read your own recent one sided fanboy type posts promoting RoF in the il2/BoB forum here from the beginning, and you should be able to easily notice how rude and obnoxious you are to other posters who dislike RoF for various reasons. you'r a crybaby for thinking you can be rude to other and then whine when you get a decent serve in return. wake up and realize the world is full of people that have different opinions to yours and they will voice them to. simply learn to coexist with them in a civilized fashion, and i suspect that they will then probably leave you alone to

going by some other posts i have been reading, it seems that right from the start of the RoF game being sold they will have "addon" planes for sale (seen at the wings of honor website)

so from what i can make out so far, you get only 2 planes for your first 50$ (the list price is 35 euro), and you then need to spend another 50$ for the next plane from the same people that just sold you the game (havnt seen a specific price for those yet), etc...

the more i hear about this, the worst it gets, they are selling you an incomplete game from the start

Seriously Zapatista you're the most stupid n incompetent person on these boards that I've ever come across, i remember you whining in old threads as well trying and trying so hard to prove your point while no one gives a **** about your fantasy arguments that you make up without having any reliable basis for what you're saying. Black Shark contains only one aircraft still I amongst many fans bought it , quantity doesn't equal quality now IL2 might have 50+ planes but compared to i.e how Black Shark simulates the KA50 non of the Aircrafts comes close. (Black shark is for instance the most realistic simulator on the market at the moment)

It's all about quality but sure you don't see that, it's not an incomplete game but if that's what you wanna call it whatever then..

You know what, we don't care and we won't miss you.

Guys if don't stop quarrelling and offensing each other I will have to close this thread!

virre89,

you sending rude private msg's now and harassing people to ?

you naughty naughty little boy, even after being told to behave yourself you cant seem to control your tantrums.

and you've missed the point about black shark, its a high tech modern flight simulator modeling their helicopter in high detail while using its advanced high tech weapon systems in a complex dynamic battle field scenario. and you interact with aircraft of all types, other helicopters, ground vehicles including tanks etc. it provides that exactly as advertised :)

from the screenshots of RoF i find their cockpits cartoonish in comparison. whats funny with you is that you havnt actually even used RoF yourself, yet you keep posting these wild and wonderful expectations of it and idealize it without even having seen it.

when others then post various bits they dont like about it (so far), you have little temper tantrums and get rude and childish

for those that can still focus on RoF related issues

ww-1 was a very particular war on the western front, other then the initial fast invasion of the germans through belgium into france when it was a fast moving front, this all gound to a halt after a final french counter offensive when the germans had almost reached paris. after that it mostly became trench warfare, with massive artillery battles and waves of assaulting infantry.

at the start of ww-1 aircraft could barely fly, and only served as airborne reconnaissance to look for ground troop movements and do some spotting for artillery. only gradually did aircraft start dropping a few bombs (mostly raiding factories behind enemy lines), and sporadic aerial engagements started. from the mid to end war aerial engagement became frequent but mostly involved 4 or 6 aircraft from one side engaging others they encountered, there almost never were engagements with large number of aircraft like in ww2

so for RoF:
- is trench warfare modeled: nope
- are large artillery battles modeled: nope
- is artillery spotting role from aircraft modeled: nope
- will aircraft not have radio communications so it creates a realistic low tech flying environment: nope, voice comms will be used which COMPLETELY changes the environment
- is the ground modeled in great detail, since most flying was done at lower altitudes this seems important: nope, very low detail in scenery but lots of cpu cycle eating poorly designed trees
- will aircraft encounters be modeling small groups of aircraft fighting it out in chance encounters ?: nope, you'll have a few 100 all buzzing together like mad little flies pretending to be the red baron. fuel loads were extremely limited in ww2, so it is not as if you can go on longer missions aiming at more distant targets either. it will be swarming large furrballs like on some of the arcade servers we know.

add to that you only get 2 aircraft with the game, and every month have to buy another one to keep up to date, and the fact you cant actually play it offline whenever it suits YOU the buyer....

so unless it actually turns out to be some ultra realistic and interesting new game that has been well designed and creates a greatly immerse environment and scenario (and somebody fixes the offline mode), no thanks :)

And yet another empty argument :D
Non of which you've any basis for still awaiting what is it now 5 post ago the sources for that? Pathetic you are indeed, but hey you're the one missing out on the years most anticipating flightsim while bashing it with nothing but a desperate mouth, to bad no one cares since it's all just an act of imagination.

Come back when you've played it with some constructive arguments kid.
About that PM , ye i was just gonna se if you were about to post it and yes it's the Zapatista i remember always running to the admins for help.

Last but not least your bash against SIMHQ was the most rolling on floor laughing my ass of post i've yet seen, you can't be serious are you?
(i hope not for you're sake)

-- Cheers! 8-)

you sure seem to :P

or is that your bestest friend doing the typing for you ?

and no i didnt see anything sensible you said that was actually worth replying to, did i miss something ?