Talking of advantage-disadvantage is an issue for online users only, and probably brings us away from the topic.

Putting aside for a moment the like-dislike debate, in real life the prop is completely invisible for 95% of sunlight angles. For the remaining 5% of case, you can focus your sight beyond sun reflection, a thing you cannot do with the same effectiveness watching a comp screen.

Then there are the health-comforts issues. Epilepsy must be a primary concern, but we also should be concerned with other undesirable effects, such as headache, vertigo and nausea.

Conclusion: for the sake of realism, and for health-comfort reasons, I’m asking for a much, much more subtle effect.
However, I’m aware that other people have different tastes, and an option can be a solution for all needs. But the order of priority should be reversed. Realism and health-concerns ask for a subtler effect as standard. Option should be there for people who prefer a less realistic and more visible prop effect.

exactly, and that is the way it is in most smaller prop planes, and is the case in most ww2 fighter planes under most normal conditions

other then some people wanting to see altered movie effects in the sim instead of a real representation of what a spinning prop looks like in real life, or the one poser with limited real life experience who suddenly believes himself to be the lone expert on this on earth, most experienced pilots of smaller prop aircraft would agree it should only be barely visible under most normal conditions. its not really an issue that is disputed.

exactemundo !!

the single main issue is that in 95% of cases the prop should simply not be visible on a pc ww2 aircraft simulator, and if it can be achieved that under certain light or weather conditions the prob in real life does become somewhat visible, this does NOT mean we should have that "effect" imposed on players 100% of the time under all visibility/light/weather conditions for the sake of the fake-real crowd who want to see a prop spin (even if in real life you couldnt see the prop at all).

Agree 100% zap.

Just another bogus "harder is more real" gamer misconception.

I went for a fly today and had a play around with trying to get some Sun reflection on the prop. Images below with Sun direct 6 O'Clock about 15degress elevation

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ak52glare2.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ak52glare1.jpg


Prop is Matt Black on the rear surface.

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What plane is that IvanK? Has the Russian Accelerometer so possibly a Yak?

What is that bird? A Yak 52? Cool!

Indeed YAK52 Here it is image taken from another YAK52

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...64/Yak5281.jpg

hiya ivan,

thanks for comparing a real life experience, and posting your information

regretfully, as i am sure you already know, both recording video and taking digital images will only partially represent visually what it would look like with the naked eye in real life (in this case it will probably over represent what the prop blur looks like). even with the blur effect captured, it is nothing like the unpleasant visual effect we have now and the degree of distraction caused by the severe flashing strobe effect which is in CoD since the last patch

can you please comment if in your experience with prop planes, is there a constant heavy blurring of your forward vision with a strobe like flickering of light/dark in your forward visual field like they have currently created in CoD since the latest patch, or do you barely notice the prop spin under most normal flying conditions (as has been my personal experience over many years, and as was modeled in previous versions of il2 and CoD).

we all can agree there is SOME very mild indication there is a prop spinning in front of us, but in the same way you dont tell a learner-driver to "watch the windscreen" while driving (and they are not "distracted by the windscreen" during normal driving conditions), once with a prop aircraft you are under normal flight conditions (and no extreme light/sun effects), the prop should be barely visible and should not be experienced as a constant severe and uncomfortable strobe like device stuck to your forehead

ps: beautiful aircraft there you lucky son of a gun, and is that the blue mountains area ? :)

Here’s another example of the difference between a camera and a human eye. I took this pic with a simple and completely automatic camera. I was not trying to portray the prop, because I was barely seeing it. What I know for sure is that I flew many different single engine planes, and I never saw anything remotely approaching the present in-game effect.



I agree that the Yak is a nice plane!

At the time the images were taken the propeller disc was hardly noticeable at all. So far I am yet to see a sun glare affect as noticeable as in CLOD.

Location was in the lower area of the Blue mountains over Lake Burragorang approx location of the image S34.01 E150.43