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Insuber 03-22-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 401721)
Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"

Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update" "we've discovered a bug, but, we're working on the patch

Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Tell that BS face to face to your customers, and you will see how long you can survive in business.
But in a certain way you are right about the "artist approach". I would call it "technological excellence", i.e. people buy your wonderful creations despite your bad temper or poor customer service. But I'm afraid it's not yet the case for CloD.

Cheers,
Ins

Wolf_Rider 03-22-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mxmadman (Post 401728)
UBI is not producing the update, nor responsible for giving us updates. It does not matter if they're creative or not, and I can guarantee they're not all artists. Game companies have art departments, but its far from being the only department.

Regardless of these facts, they are a business. They are businessmen because of this. They are accountable. Citing bad people skills as an excuse just won't cut it.

You've got it wrong, on all points, sorry to say... except for bad people skills from some forum members, and that's what they're reacting to


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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 401734)
Tell that BS face to face to your customers, and you will see how long you can survive in business.

wellll... that is what is being demanded from the developers by a vocal few here, each and every Friday. WHile things are being worked on, sorted out and run through the mill , that is all that is likely to be forthcoming... "Yes, we're working on the patch"

What do people want? A line by line hand holding excercise, each time a key is tapped??

David Hayward 03-22-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Insuber (Post 401734)
Tell that BS face to face to your customers, and you will see how long you can survive in business.

We don't even tell them that much. We assume that they're bright enough to understand that we are constantly working on updating our software.

mxmadman 03-22-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 401735)
You've got it wrong, on all points, sorry to say... except for bad people skills from some forum members, and that's what they're reacting to

Oh ok, since you said so...

Pro tip: evidence and specificity are key when proving a point.

Wolf_Rider 03-22-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mxmadman (Post 401740)
Oh ok, since you said so...

Pro tip: evidence and specificity are key when proving a point.

well, you "said so"

tip: hypocrisy is not becoming

6S.Tamat 03-22-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 401739)
We don't even tell them that much. We assume that they're bright enough to understand that we are constantly working on updating our software.

So please be kind and help the developers to deal also with the others like us that are not clever enough...

XL5 03-22-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 401731)
Sorry if you see it as insulting, but that is exactly what you are looking for. They are working on an update. If you need more info than that, then you are looking for someone to hold you hand while you wait.

So, David, now that we are at 7 pages of this very constructive discussion and you , who considers himself as a respectful adult, are already in the " personnal negative comments zone" if I put it nicely, I ask you again my initial question : is the forum better off now ? :grin:

David Hayward 03-22-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by XL5 (Post 401746)
So, David, now that we are at 7 pages of this very constructive discussion and you , who considers himself as a respectful adult, are already in the " personnal negative comments zone" if I put it nicely, I ask you again my initial question : is the forum better off now ? :grin:

It's not personally negative at all. Some people just need to have someone hold their hand.

No, thanks to pointless threads about whether the forum is better, it's not.

Walrus1 03-22-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 401721)
Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"

Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update" "we've discovered a bug, but, we're working on the patch

Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"


Friday update: "Yes, we're working on the patch"

If that's all the news there is, so be it.

We would like to hear it.

And if any more insight can be provided, such as more details of what they are working on, that is of interest.

The very angry and dissatisfied will not be happy with that, but most people who have bought the game and are waiting for improvements will appreciate that small amount of communication.

mxmadman 03-22-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider (Post 401742)
well, you "said so"

tip: hypocrisy is not becoming

You actually need me to provide evidence that game companies have art departments? And evidence that 1C is actually a business?

What are you talking about? You can't honestly believe that either of those points are not true.

If you would be more specific in your accusations (I.e. not saying that everything I said is wrong when clearly that's not the case) then ill be more specific in my proof.


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