If you can't see why he reacted that way many of us can, you need to calm down and get a grip to be honest.

trolled enough? Let's look at facts again:

1) someone posts a link to a video of an online aerobatic team
2) I make an innocuous comment about the fact that it's not realistic (never said it's not cool, just not what you'd see in RL)
3) Faucon gets all patronising on me, when in fact he didn't understand what I was talking about.
4) I believe I have enough flying hours on a variety of aircraft to tell that he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about himself (turns out he didn't understand what I said).
5) he gets wound up and insults me.
6) I still keep it civilised and talk to him, his comments still leave me a bit puzzled in terms of true aeronautical knowledge.
7)..and I'm the troll?!

I really dunno what's wrong with some of you guys..

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erm, are we reading the same forum? :confused:
His patronising answer "Jesus... :rolleyes: Never speak about things you dont know." is offensive enough as far as I'm concerned. One could keep things civilised and ask "so why you say that?", there's no need for all that passive aggressive crap.

Then he also calls me names and gets all crazy at me and I'm the one that need to be checked?!

No, I just made an innocuous remark about flying tight formation with mustangs. It's an exercise of joystick ability, but it's unrealistic, period. What's hard, offensive or inappropriate about this? Have I said "all virtual aerobatic teams are w@nkers!"? No.

So? A pilot can't be wrong? I'm a "real pilot" too, with several hundred hours under my belt (you can go look for details in the OT forum, it was discussed some time ago), and frankly I find it weird that a "fellow real pilot" doesn't get what I mean.
It's a nice thought, but I don't need to be defended. I don't talk about stuff that I don't know, and I would like that the other forum members would stick to this habit, cos there's an evergrowing amount of primadonnas here, and very few of us actually have a grasp of what flying really is.

Christ, I've seen people having a go at Bongo, a professional pilot, because they thought they knew it better! I'm subscribed to several forums on the internet, but none of them has the amount of frustrated wannabes like in here. I don't really think it's me that needs to get a grip..

dude, I had no idea it was his team, and even if I did, am I entitled to my opinion or not? I flicked fast through the topic, got curious about the video, opened it, found it cute but not realistic, made a comment about it. I'm not dissing anyone here.. jeeez it feels like dealing with wanna be homeboyz in da hood..

Like our mod alpha suggests: you don't like me? Put me on ignore list.

yeah maybe it's not me that needs to calm down: one can have a civilised exchange of opinions without going all xxxxxx and calling others names. I'm perfectly calm as it happens, just surprised at how short-fuzed some folks in here are..

Wow. Read my comment above and pay attention to the quotes (they are from you if you didn't notice). If you don't understand it get a friend (if you have something like that) read and explain it for you.

Also your list is funny. For a facts guy you're really good at getting them all wrong and messed up.
Here's the real list:
1) You were the one using "lolspeak" first (in a patronizing way even!) because of a random video
2) then he replied. You said in a patronizing way - good, now you're equal at best.
3) You reply again. In some sort of ghetto language and totally insulting.
See? That's a list. And it's correct.

You were first with insulting so get over it now. Like I said before I tried to defend you on a number of occasions because I believe in "free and open speech" but what you're doing here is just rubbish. Don't go looking for internet fights - it makes you look like a weird kiddo in a dark cellar.


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Speaking of the Su26 - does anyone know how to get Flight Unlimited running on a "recent" computer? I tried searching the web but no results so far. I'd REALLY love if someone has a tip.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ight_Unlimited

I also wonder if the mappers could create something like the Flight Unlimited maneuver courses etc. with the "new" editor and C++ capability?

Your comments were in no way civilised, you provoked his response, end of.

I simply see that Sternjaeger did not exppress it well, ok, but talking, people use to understand each other, not insulting like Faucon did. That was not fair Faucon, it's not the first time I see you "loosing the papers". Please calm down you both. Forums (in general) are an easy way to get angry, but it's completely useless...

Even if someone is wrong, the last thing we can do is go down to insult. Just keep talking, please.

End of this topic for me.

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Can we focus back on the Su-26? Thank you.

1. What was said about that plane in CoD is that was promised long time ago, almost 5 years ago. One of the reasons it was that Oleg worked on the OKB Sukhoi for that real plane.

2. Oleg left the 1C team and CoD project is given to Luthier, who is told to launch the sim to the market in 1 year.

3. The Alpha shown in Igromir display shows some images from a Su-26. Only external images, but someone writes that the cockpit of the plane is unfinished and gauges do not work. Not sure if Oleg was still on the team or not by then. Can anyone confirm?

4. The fear is that Oleg's departure is also the end for that plane since HE was who knew the plane.

5. Since the next thing happened long time ago I think I can speak about it already. I receive a private message in my Youtube account from an user called OlegMaddox, asking if I still fly the Su-26.
Well, I only recorded some videos from real 26 of some friends I know. I do not fly the 26, and less at that moment, when I was starting fo fly in a Cessna. I respond him with those facts and I offer him the contact of some real Su-26 pilots, but I get no more news from him.

6. CoD arrives to marked with no 26, but there's a subfolder with its name in skins folder, and as said before, FM still there but inactive.

7. Su-26's FM disappears in a patch.


Not good expectations to see the plane in the simulator again, sincereously...
:(

But Luthier keep saying that CoD might grow with an expansion industry around it like the one that growed FS... hope is not lost at all!

Since I am reading this thread from the start of that specific discussion yesterday may I say that I don't see how Stern's comments cld be seen as being rude.

Stern only adopted a general tone that prevail those days on teh Forum (sadly !)

It might be that exposing himself Faucon was irritated by this tone. I am sure that if he had been more present on the Forum lately he wld hve been immunised by such comments.

Regarding the sense of the discussion, Stern is as right as Faucon (Falcon) on many occasions provided us with nice vids and perfectely executed actions altough the insults here reflect a temporary loss of temper easily correctable.

Once more this discussion is typical of the wrong way we are all taking by acting agressively toward each others despite the fact that at the end we are all found of aviation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

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