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David Hayward 07-20-2011 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammi79 (Post 311922)
And herein lies the problem. Why should any of your 'demands' be satisfied pray tell? you know these guys personally I take it, you certainly seem to think that you know exactly what duties Luthiers job involves. Or maybe you work for UBIsoft or even 1C?

Quite honestly if the thread title bore any shred of truth all you victims of virtual rights abuses would probably have received an answer by now, but by continuing with the feet stamping and immature ranting you are highlighting the fact that none of you 'deserve' the slightest bit of communication. Its so irritating I'm starting to hope that they don't ever fix it, just imagining the sore expressions on your faces is keeping me amused. Every single thread wether it starts off humerous, critical or whatever is being continuously trolled be a minority of users who in my forum would be banned, its not about human rights, its about it being my forum and my rules. Maybe you feel that would be wrong and unfair ? good. I would be pleased to know I had caused such poorly mannered people some discomfort, would feel like I'd been doing my part. The moderators here are truly very tolerant to let this all go on, I applaud them for I personally would be unable to be so. They are truly calmer and more objective people than me - I guess thats why they are moderators.

Just to emphasise my point about the falsity of OP statement, Luthier posted an update with the American release and did the level of the wailing even dip for a moment? No. Thankfully he had the foresight to lock that thread. I've been ignoring for a week or so in the vain hope that the vitriol dies down but no. Well surprised is something i am not. Go ahead then tear up my post, stamp your feet, gnash your teeth and try to insult and belittle me in the most intelligent way you can. :-P

http://www.cookipedia.co.uk/wiki/ima...old_cheese.jpg

Every whiner on this board should read this post until they fully comprehend it. Anyone who whines after reading it should be banned for life.

Lololopoulos 07-20-2011 02:32 PM

signing my name right here.
lol

yellonet 07-20-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonys (Post 311929)
if you want to call the "we're working" an update, please, be my guest.

in the mean time we, all of the not-challenged ones who figured that out, need an actual update regarding the stae of the patch work.

Who cares what you need? You can be glad for what you get.
You've paid for a license to install and play the game as it is. Nothing more.
There's nothing even saying that there should be an official forum for the game.
You're whining for something that is given freely by the developer, they have no obligation what so ever to tell us anything.
Stop acting like a spoiled kid, things will work out.

Ze-Jamz 07-20-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammi79 (Post 311922)
Just to emphasise my point about the falsity of OP statement, Luthier posted an update with the American release and did the level of the wailing even dip for a moment? No. Thankfully he had the foresight to lock that thread.
http://www.cookipedia.co.uk/wiki/ima...old_cheese.jpg

One might say that wasnt an update Sammi.. that was an introduction though some would say poor to the new market that have just injected a load of cash into this title..so imo why would the wailing of 'please an update on progress' stop if they didnt have one...my 2 cents

Also as for him locking the thread...i think i know why too though i can probably guess its not for the same reasons you see

adonys 07-20-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellonet (Post 311943)
Who cares what you need? You can be glad for what you get.
You've paid for a license to install and play the game as it is. Nothing more.
There's nothing even saying that there should be an official forum for the game.
You're whining for something that is given freely by the developer, they have no obligation what so ever to tell us anything.
Stop acting like a spoiled kid, things will work out.

you sir, are an idiot, pardon my french.

I have bought a product, which has to meet the characteristics presented and advertised based on which I've made the judgement to buy this product. and therefore it is my right to demand to have them implemented/fixed/working as advertised, or demand my money back and even demand compensations for false-advertising via a law suit.

in respect and trust for MG and our common past, I've chose just to demand a single weekly update post regarding the situation of the work on game fixes.

if you fail to comprehend this simple english statement, just re-read please the first sentence of this post.

carguy_ 07-20-2011 02:43 PM

Why don`t you just stop the insults and add him to your ignore list.

Opitz 07-20-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammi79 (Post 311922)
And herein lies the problem. Why should any of your 'demands' be satisfied pray tell? you know these guys personally I take it, you certainly seem to think that you know exactly what duties Luthiers job involves. Or maybe you work for UBIsoft or even 1C?

Quite honestly if the thread title bore any shred of truth all you victims of virtual rights abuses would probably have received an answer by now, but by continuing with the feet stamping and immature ranting you are highlighting the fact that none of you 'deserve' the slightest bit of communication. Its so irritating I'm starting to hope that they don't ever fix it, just imagining the sore expressions on your faces is keeping me amused. Every single thread wether it starts off humerous, critical or whatever is being continuously trolled be a minority of users who in my forum would be banned, its not about human rights, its about it being my forum and my rules. Maybe you feel that would be wrong and unfair ? good. I would be pleased to know I had caused such poorly mannered people some discomfort, would feel like I'd been doing my part. The moderators here are truly very tolerant to let this all go on, I applaud them for I personally would be unable to be so. They are truly calmer and more objective people than me - I guess thats why they are moderators.

Just to emphasise my point about the falsity of OP statement, Luthier posted an update with the American release and did the level of the wailing even dip for a moment? No. Thankfully he had the foresight to lock that thread. I've been ignoring for a week or so in the vain hope that the vitriol dies down but no. Well surprised is something i am not. Go ahead then tear up my post, stamp your feet, gnash your teeth and try to insult and belittle me in the most intelligent way you can. :-P

Everything what you wrote is based on wrong assumption - Luthier's so called update post...

First of all, the most important FACT(!!) - he did not post any "update" related to any known bug or defects. Or did he? Who is the master here? You, carguy or David Haywarth or any other uncritical fanboys? Or is it Luthier? Or is it angry, ignored CUSTOMERS? What is moving people like you or carguy to react to what they hate - whinning? Why they dont just dont ignore it, as so called "whinners" are ignored by Luthier?

We have in czech language a nice old saying - "do the devil good and he will pay you with hell" - you can be feeling better that on this forum is no more whinning threads, but still you will have a bugfest game installed on your PC. And you can just uninstall it and wait. Or leave it and play other games. Because you don't feel you are the guy who can put some stress on them. You should be demanding. Not just robbed and silenced like stupid sheep.

Ataros 07-20-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonys (Post 311929)
if you want to call the "we're working" an update, please, be my guest.

in the mean time we, all of the not-challenged ones who figured that out right from the post-launch day, need an actual update regarding the state of the patch work.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ataros (Post 311799)
If luthier does not post anything this fact becomes a reason for complains, but only 1 reason. In case he posts anything a reason for complain can be found in every word he posts if someone wants to find it (too long, too little, not enough, poor, etc...)

Thus the less he posts the less reasons for complains exist. The same happened 6-8 years ago with Oleg's posts at sukhoi.ru Oleg had to stop posting there eventually.

The same will happen here. Only official announcements will probably happen because of 3-4 people who can not appreciate others' work or attention as we can see. No need to feed trolls.

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Igo kyu 07-20-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Hayward (Post 311934)
Every whiner on this board should read this post until they fully comprehend it. Anyone who whines after reading it should be banned for life.

Well, You just make me feel that I ought to buy the game... NOT.

I am cautious, so I let others go first. Now I'm glad I did, and I'm waiting in hope for game to be fixed. Ban me and I'm gone, and any chance of my money with me.

I want to thank all the "whiners" on this board for their fair warnings :), and the anti-whining-nazis can just "go away" :-P.

David Hayward 07-20-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonys (Post 311946)
I have bought a product, which has to meet the characteristics presented and advertised based on which I've made the judgement to buy this product. and therefore it is my right to demand to have them implemented/fixed/working as advertised, or demand my money back and even demand compensations for false-advertising via a law suit.

By all means, file a lawsuit. Demand your money back. Just stop your bloody whining.


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