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Sully_pa 03-14-2011 05:49 PM

@KG26_Alpha - I was trying to get the spring to hold center tension all the time .. to stop it from going light/limp at slow speed 's .

@jameson - The forces only go light at slow speeds, landing,take off,stall as I guess they should ...I wanted to eliminate that and keep the tension like it feels at 300kph all the time while still getting the other FFB responses. My stick has no IR holes anymore as I've modded it to a X52 Pro FFB2 and never lose it . :cool:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...a/DSCN1077.jpg

KG26_Alpha 03-14-2011 06:05 PM

Ahha a XFFB52

As you know with the beam permanently broken the DC servos will be on all the time the sticks powered up.

I'm not sure what you mean by "centre tension all the time" as my MSFFB2 progressively produces resistance as you head to stall point then buffets the stick at stall, the rest is smooth loading of the stick forces as the control surfaces load up when manoeuvring depending on speed and AoA.

Low speed "limpness" is realistic of low resistance as there's less air pressure on the aircraft's control surfaces.

I'll have a look at what you want in FFE, but it seems strange to want high speed at low speed force across the range.

Sully_pa 03-14-2011 08:07 PM

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Ahha a XFFB52
LOL Never thought of that .


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Low speed "limpness" is realistic of low resistance as there's less air pressure on the aircraft's control surfaces.it seems strange to want high speed at low speed force across the range.
I know ...maybe I'm not looking for high speed but something in the middle ... I was messing with the editor but no matter what I do I can't seem to get it. Just a little more/some stiffness/tension at idol .... Thanks for looking into it .


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As you know with the beam permanently broken the DC servos will be on all the time the sticks powered up.
I keep it unplugged unless I'm using it. As I imagine it could wear it out faster.

Thanks again.

jameson 03-14-2011 08:53 PM

Looks like a nice convertion. Stick forces shouldn't be too light on landing, but then again you shouldn't be waving the stick about much on the final run in. Practice is all I can suggest, sorry!

Sully_pa 03-14-2011 09:03 PM

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Stick forces shouldn't be too light on landing, but then again you shouldn't be waving the stick about much on the final run in. Practice is all I can suggest, sorry!
I don't really have a problem with take off or landing I would just prefer a little more resistance in a stall fight ....but I will fly with it on to get used to it ... Thanks

swiss 03-15-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully_pa (Post 234318)
@KG26_Alpha - I was trying to get the spring to hold center tension all the time .. to stop it from going light/limp at slow speed 's .

Disable FFB in the the GUI - et voilà, only non-adjusting centering force left.

Sully_pa 03-15-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 234522)
Disable FFB in the the GUI - et voilà, only non-adjusting centering force left.

What GUI ? IL2? I'm using Win 7 so that would be the only place .... If I do that I lose all FFB and thats not what I wanted..no worries I'll get it figured out .....thanks

swiss 03-15-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully_pa (Post 234717)
What GUI ? IL2? I'm using Win 7 so that would be the only place .... If I do that I lose all FFB and thats not what I wanted..no worries I'll get it figured out .....thanks

If you disable FFB in IL2 you won't lose centering force.

Sully_pa 03-16-2011 12:27 AM

I know but I'll lose the guns and buffets ...thats what I'm trying to avoid ....I want constant centering force with Cannon,machine gun, shake,bomb and morter FFB.

woodchuck 03-16-2011 11:24 PM

I'd love to see a little "how to" presentation on the XFFB52 mod.

How does the X52 handle solidly attach to the MSFFB, and how about the wiring?

This stick looks like the "killer app". Bravo.


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