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Richie 01-22-2011 01:29 PM

You guy's should watch the whole thing. Actually I would like to send it to Oleg or Ilya to watch. 3 minutes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8FsRU0fv_A

Tacoma74 01-22-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie (Post 215234)
You guy's should watch the whole thing. Actually I would like to send it to Oleg or Ilya to watch.

I did.. very interesting perspective that was told. Many Brits feared the 109, they saw what it could do in Poland and France. In the end it was the poor tactics and organization that lead to the Luftwaffe's demise. Not this time around though :)

kimosabi 01-22-2011 01:48 PM

I think we need some 190's. I need my easy escape route.

BadAim 01-22-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 215214)
Lol, if we want to create our own history, and we truly have learnt from the past, then lets end this stupid war and all go down the pub!


Here, Here!

BadAim 01-22-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ltbear (Post 215162)
All war games about wars in the past have one main problem. We know what the did correct and we can figure out what they did wrong. Right there you have the reson why "historical" battles cant be made Historical.

You will have to tie someones dynamic game to a static game to do that. Will the German stay close and slow to the bombers?? Hell no, they know it was wrong to do, they wount be forced to do it.

Same problem with IL2 in the pacific. You have Japanese pilots, flying with tactics they shouldnt and they use radios...

Both sides have to accept that the Historical comes from the time and dates and the hardware, not from the what you will se on the servers. You cant park a game with a static result but trying to use a dynamic way to get the static result.

Historical is a scriptet way towards the endgame, making sure that the Historical facts are used to get to the correct ending..... How many do anyone think they can get to do that.....Blues want to beat reds, they will do anything they can to do that....they dont have "stupid" commanders to order them around....they know by history what they shouldnt do.....

LTbear

Exactly, Exactly. Isn't this what wargaming is about? To try to do the battle better? It's always a "what if" scenario, if not what's the point really?

Richie 01-22-2011 02:06 PM

Can you imagine P-51s being forced to fly wing tip to wing tip wing B-17s. I don't think that would work very well

TinyTim 01-22-2011 03:28 PM

"It [the 109] had one advantage over the spitfire - it could get higher. We always were at disadvantage - every time we met them they were higher than we were."

from interview with spitfire ace George C. "Grumpy" Unwin

Xilon_x 01-22-2011 03:52 PM

REGGIANE 2005/2006 is much much superior to p51 and spitfire and also p38.

http://www.clubfreccetricolori.com/c...e2005-26_1.jpg
if italian use this airplane in BATTLE OF BRITTAIN WINN THE WAR.

fruitbat 01-22-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy (Post 215026)
but it has not much BoB action in the book, he was shot down very early in the campaign.

No he wasn't, it was in october, and his plane came down near a village called Sarre, about 2 miles away from me. His plane is on display at Hawkinge, and he flew over 100 missions in BoB.

I suggest you re-read the book,

by the way, i finished it about a month ago.

Daniël 01-22-2011 04:22 PM

@ Xilon, Wikipedia says the project was started in 1941. After the BoB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggiane_Re.2005
An interesting Italian plane, just like the Fiat G.55


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