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BPickles 12-12-2011 08:38 AM

This is what I feared all along carguy :(
From the first patch i knew that we would end up having to pay for our major game fixing patch if we wanted our game to run. I bet for those who don't buy BoM, the patch will be yet another unhealthy long wait after BoM's release, forcing people to buy.
I support MG and have done from the start of IL2 by buying all there products and more some, but I don't trust MG or 1C at all now after such a poor show here.
For me, NO patch before BoM = NO more support for MG

robtek 12-12-2011 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ingsoc84 (Post 369419)
No patch means I buy NO sequel..would not make much sense..just new maps and new planes..etc..but same playability...not for me..but then Im pessimistic about this. I generally like the game.but dont like that I have to turn so much down on the visuals.when my pc shoud play this quite fine. But.this is old news. Probably will have to wait a year or two till new generation nvidia cards are out...that will really make the game quite nice..its just patience...maybe I'll give ROF a test.

If you have to turn down anything, except textures from original to high, then something is wrong with your system, i believe.

I have everything on high, and no Problems, except the launcher.exe bug.

icarus 12-15-2011 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ingsoc84 (Post 369419)
No patch means I buy NO sequel..would not make much sense..just new maps and new planes..etc..but same playability...not for me..but then Im pessimistic about this. I generally like the game.but dont like that I have to turn so much down on the visuals.when my pc shoud play this quite fine. But.this is old news. Probably will have to wait a year or two till new generation nvidia cards are out...that will really make the game quite nice..its just patience...maybe I'll give ROF a test.

If >>>>No patch

No patch = massive FAIL for CoD

nearmiss 12-15-2011 05:08 AM

Icarus and other complainers

Your whines and complaints in previous postings have been deleted more than once. Your complaints have been read and noted by all concerned persons. You should realize by now you aren't going to solve anything with repeated negative postings, except a possible ban of youself.

We all know the score, and we've read so many negative speculations and rants. Luthier and the team are doing what they can to fix and repair issues. Making best use of the dev team is more efficient with production of additions to COD as issues are being patched.

It's all about managing resources efficiently, even though some think COD has to be perfect before moving onto new things. COD will never be perfect, just as IL2 has never been perfect.

If you can't refrain you should really just go somewhere else and do something else. Drop by every day or so to learn of any developments, but most importantly keep your cool. It doesn't matter what you say or how you say it. The dev team is still working on future patches and improvements of COD and additions to the COD. The developers cannot release a constant barrage of patches for things you want fixed. Each patch will bring improvements for some people, but may not fix issues othere are having.

Moderation of negative postings is about to change. Please be advised many members in good standing are demanding stricter moderation of troublesome posters.:rolleyes:

jayrc 12-15-2011 05:27 AM

thank you nearmiss, very well said

Force10 12-15-2011 06:09 AM

This is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:CLOD was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:Just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:If 1C forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) I'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "CLOD never ran very good and was missing some stuff so I'll pass"

You may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is I want CLOD to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled IMO. As good as it is though, I will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.

icarus 12-15-2011 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by force10 (Post 370296)
this is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:clod was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:if 1c forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) i'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "clod never ran very good and was missing some stuff so i'll pass"

you may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is i want clod to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled imo. As good as it is though, i will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.

100%

JG52Krupi 12-15-2011 06:43 AM

I am sorry I seemed to have missed the well constructed post through all the tears and toy throwing....

Why reiterate your anger everyday? We know your opinion so why fill these forums with the same negative information, it only leads to the "fanboy" posters coming along to say everything is working perfectly.

The game is being worked on just be patient....

klem 12-15-2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Force10 (Post 370296)
This is really sad. Since when is telling a developer that if they don't fix certain parts of a game, that they won't buy a sequel a banworthy offense? As unpleasant as it might be for them to hear, it would seem like important info for them to know. Granted, some are more nasty than others, but it has gotten to the point where even a well constructed negative post is met with harsh responses provolking even more negative feelings.

Silence has never accomplished anything in this world. So lets face some facts:

:CLOD was one of the worst "perceived" flight sim launches in recent history

:Just about everyone said the same thing, tons of potential, but don't worry, they will fix it. To us in the flight sim world, that meant they will patch it.

:If 1C forces players to buy a sequel before fixing some fundemental things, they will lose customers...a lot of them. I'm not talking just about the "whiners" (as anyone who has a problem is labeled) I'm also talking about people that have never been on a forum and when seeing a sequel will just remember "CLOD never ran very good and was missing some stuff so I'll pass"

You may call me a whiner if you like, but the fact is I want CLOD to succeed. I took a quick flight an hour ago and the cockpits and feeling of flight is unrivaled IMO. As good as it is though, I will not purchase a sequel until a decent amount of things are fixed...it doesn't have to be near perfect, just better.


Its not the statements, its the constant drip-drip repetition that is getting many of us fed up with hearing it.

As for icarus, we have been told there will be a patch so "no patch=fail" (again!) is meaningless and irritating and it is also expected that the sequel will bring with it more core improvements for the total game.

The "no patchers" need to be patient. None of us like it but thats the way it is.

And no-one is forcing anyone to buy a sequel. I would hope that a patch would be released to cover any "sequel" core improvements for those that don't buy it.

SYN_Repent 12-15-2011 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 370288)
The developers cannot release a constant barrage of patches for things you want fixed. Each patch will bring improvements for some people, but may not fix issues othere are having.


Maybe i should ask Blacksix this question, but why cant they release patches daily?, if they fix the radio comms then they can release a patch, if they fix the LOD/plane dissapearing issue, release a patch, down to the smallest grammar or spelling error, it doesnt matter, they can just release a patch, surely thats one of the great things about having a game on steam isnt it, it doesnt trouble anyone when they release patches on steam, open steam, CLOD auto updates, same as any other game on steam which recieves regular fixes.


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