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Lo0n 12-17-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123 (Post 31191)
Well considering some of the disgusting personal attacks by certain pro-hackers I can't for the life of me see any further reason to attempt debate, mainly because they simply seem to have forgotten to answer any of the points raised, by many members here.

They are in a corner, they know it, and like rats they will attack anyone , frankly the longer it goes on the less and less credible they become.

Over and out.

think you are referring to the anti modders with that sentiment... if you were shown a clean track and told that there was cheating in it, when there was in fact none, you would still come away with a bulletpointed list of cheating seen it in wouldn't you

Abbeville-Boy 12-17-2007 10:22 AM

in the united states, bonehead is a complement, now if he had called him a "meathead" well thats another matter

zapatista 12-17-2007 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lo0n (Post 31255)
make allegations then you have to prove them, the burden of proof rests with whomever makes an allegation. modders have posted how they have tried out checkruntime=2 servers and have been blocked. so bearing that in mind, what could they post?

and as far as personal attakcs go, the only one i've seen is the "i'll nuke ur pc" a few pages back. for what it's worth, it has always been possible to cheat in vanilla il-2 by simply fiddling with the sound setting to get that sound radar thing...

rubbish

checkruntime=2 doesnt block anything, it might have done on the initial hack, but not now. and that is the exact problem, there is no hack block whatsoever anymore.

at least try and be up to date if you are going to try and correct him

CKY_86 12-17-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 31262)
rubbish

checkruntime=2 doesnt block anything, it might have done on the initial hack, but not now. and that is the exact problem, there is no hack block whatsoever anymore.

at least try and be up to date if you are going to try and correct him

Yes it does still block.

Tried to enter many servers yesterday, UK Dedicated 1+2 being two of them & got blocked by the checkruntime=2 thing.

zapatista 12-17-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CKY_86 (Post 31264)
Yes it does still block.

Tried to enter many servers yesterday, UK Dedicated 1+2 being two of them & got blocked by the checkruntime=2 thing.

your behind the times CKY, get some of your pro hack chums here to give you the later hack versions, and maybe read this treads earlier posts where all of that was confirmed.

zapatista 12-17-2007 12:12 PM

and for those hack kids who seem to be deaf dumb and blind to olegs opinion on all this, in spite of his other open statements he made showing how damaging all this hack nonsense is.

from a recent russian forum post by oleg...

"В общем так. Будет 4.09, но не знаю еще когда. Там будет защита от хакеров нового типа. Вопрос в том, что это может иногда ухудшить скорость передачи данных. Мы могли это сделать и раньше, но не делали именно поэтому.
Мы могли вообще все на компьютере юзера проверять, но это было бы противозаконно (хотя наиболее просто и действенно...).
В общем мешают нам нормально БоБ-ом заниматься... Готовились только дополнение выпустить, а теперь придеться отложить... пока не сделаем, что сказал.
Не люблю я читеров.... И Ил-2 не предназначался для моддеров... Поэтому так долго и живет в онлайне..."

roughly translates as.... (ivan can maybe be more accurate)

"So - there'll be 4.09 patch, don't know how soon yet. 4.09 patch will have protection from this hack, but it will sometimes increase traffic load. We could do it before, but did not do it for this reason.
The easiest way - do some checks at client side, it will be very effective but illegally.
All this problems delay readiness of addon for IL-2 and BOB"
Also, Oleg said that he don't like cheaters and Il2 was not supposed to have mods. That's why it popular in online long time.


did the hack kiddies miss the points oleg made ?
- its delaying work on BoB !
- its delaying the 4.09 release for the rest of us
- the hack crap will be closed again shortly, so go back under the rock where you came from, and stroke eachother there without bothering the rest of us with your juvenile crap
- hacking files results in cheating online, and this makes il2 less popular in online use
- the new hack fix will increase BW demands, and could make it much harder for low BW people to play online

carguy_ 12-17-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123 (Post 31186)
I'm still waiting for the proof that hackers are not flying online in coops/wars/DF servers using all of the many advantages the hack enables them to use.

I see they are now trying to muddy the waters further by posting more threads demanding proof, maybe they should actually post the proof to the questions above first and some of us might take them a bit more seriously(not).



http://carguy.w.interia.pl/tracki/bagdad_bob.gif


"Please let me state the obvious. I have contacted Oleg MAddox. We have come to the following conclusions.
There is no cheating on online servers. Vanilla users are just jealous. There is no reason to think that CRT=2 is inneffective. Every mod user plays online only with the sound mod enabled. Online play is untouched while the game benefits greatly from the mods"

CKY_86 12-17-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 31267)
your behind the times CKY, get some of your pro hack chums here to give you the later hack versions, and maybe read this treads earlier posts where all of that was confirmed.

I took your advice an installed the latest version of the sound mod. I again tried to join UK Dedicated 1+2 & I can confirm the checkruntime=2 block is still there.

JG52Uther 12-17-2007 01:16 PM

But it can't be cky_86, zapatista said it does not work anymore?
How would he know this anyway?
Is there more to this than he is telling us?
Do you have a version zapatista that bypasses CRT=2?
Actually don't tell us,we should not discuss it on the forum.

Billfish 12-17-2007 01:49 PM

12.12.07
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Originally Posted by Evgeny (Post 30763)
The last warning, guys. If someone continues promoting hacking, insulting each other, using obscene language or post extremely off-topic threads, the punishment will come immediately. I think no one wants to be banned. Such measures are entirely for your own good. This forum isn't going to turn into a zoo, this forum was created for honorable people, who respect themselves and each other. I think all of you are such people. So prove it and the only result will be happiness and good warm atmosphere on the forum.



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