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icarus 12-06-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 367805)


Ah that is good news! I am glad to hear you figured out what API means!

Snippy comment dude. Attitude not appreciated.

Always did. DX 11 is a collection of application programming interfaces (APIs) for handling tasks related to multimedia, especially game programming and video, on Microsoft platforms.

ACE-OF-ACES 12-07-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367896)
Snippy comment dude. Attitude not appreciated.

What attitude?

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367896)
Always did. DX 11 is a collection of application programming interfaces (APIs) for handling tasks related to multimedia, especially game programming and video, on Microsoft platforms.

Nope!

Your still missing it!

Allow me to clear this up for you..

Note in that link you provided it says

Quote:

DX 10 and DX 11 API support
If what your saying was true, than that statement would imply 1C used 'both' the DX 10 API and DX 11 API in software development..

Which any programer will tell you is silly! Especially in light of the fact that the DX 11 API includes everything the DX 10 API contained and more!

Now that that is out of the way.. Read it again with an open mind and you should see that statement is saying..

1) CoD is a game that runs DX 10 'feature levels'
2) CoD is a game that is programmed using the DX 11 API

Two very different things!!

And at that same link you provided, under the PC CONFIGURATION Tab it says

Quote:

VIDEO CARD: DirectX® 9.0c compliant, 512Mb Video Card (1GB DirectX® 10 recommended)
Not DirectX® 11 recommended

Thus CoD was never advertised as a DX 11 'capable' game (as you were trying to imply in your inital posts)

By capable I mean capable of making use of the DX 11 'feature levels'

Hope that helps! S!

ACE-OF-ACES 12-07-2011 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addman (Post 367886)
Ok, maybe I need to be more clear,

Nope.. it was clear the first time.. Your statements are subjective, it is the old one mans treasure is another mans trash thing. Thus your comments say more about your expectations and biases than CoD

ACE-OF-ACES 12-07-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 367867)
The sim will never be finished, as it will be a workinprogress for atleast the next ten years, as they add theaters, bug fixes, and features that will apply to all theaters including COD.

Bingo!

And anyone who knows anything about IL-2 should know this! The only thing that will keep that from happening is if enough nay-sayers keep talking this sim down such that new blood (don't know about the 10+ year IL-2 support) will not buy CoD and thus 1C runs out of $ and is forced to stop support

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 367867)
I believe many people having stability problems should look at the condition and speed of their own systems

Bingo!

And those with top-o-the-line hardware should remember that bad software can bring good hardware to it's knees

icarus 12-07-2011 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 367911)

!

If what you say is accurate, at the very least Ubi is being very misleading by saying "New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support. Latest Gen would be DX11 draphics. Very misleading at best.

Now I'm going to end it here, I don't have time to post as frequently here as you do. LOL

Bryan21cag 12-07-2011 03:18 AM

On the bright side........
 
The silver lining is that the system i bought thinking it would easily run CLOD full tilt, now runs all of the other games i play, new and old, in such stunning detail I have no reason to be mad :) With out CLOD I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on such a hefty new rig so soon :) it is a shame though that I may need to be upgrading again by the time all the issues get worked out.

P.S 66 pages of dialog on this topic is just jaw dropping lol anyone who makes it to the end from the start gets a DFC from me :P

specs below
just tried the game again just now to refresh my memory. I still get stutters at all graphics levels and playable yet not all that exciting game play out of it.

and ill beat Ace O Aces to the punch lol I know what I say is subjective. We get it, EVERYTHING in the world is subjective including my silly joking comment that everything in the world is subjective lol any way ill check back in with you guys in a few months and see if anything has changed:)

Cheers

full specs
CASE: Cooler Master Elite 430

CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 970 Black Edition Quad-Core

CASE Cooling: 1x140mm 5x120mm

CPU Cooling: CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler

HDD1: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC SSD (way to small in hindsight)

HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (1TB x 2 (2 TB
Capacity) Raid 0

MEMORY: Corsair 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel

MOTHERBOARD: Asus M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AMD 890FX Chipset

Cross Fire Single Monitor (currently 42in Viewable FP 1920x1080 HD TV)

OS: Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming PS

VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe

VIDEO2: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe

ACE-OF-ACES 12-07-2011 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367926)
If what you say is accurate, at the very least Ubi is being very misleading by saying "New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support. Latest Gen would be DX11 draphics. Very misleading at best.

misleading?

Naaa..

confusing?

Sure, especially for the none programer types.

But IMHO look at all the advertisements, not just the one 'confusing' one and it is clear

Quote:

Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367926)
Now I'm going to end it here, I don't have time to post as frequently here as you do. LOL

True.. my job and background does give me a lot of leeway :rolleyes:

ACE-OF-ACES 12-07-2011 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan21cag (Post 367929)
specs below
just tried the game again just now to refresh my memory. I still get stutters at all graphics levels and playable yet not all that exciting game play out of it.

Well.. knowing that some with lesser hardware are running CoD fine tells me that there is something about your PC.. Most likely some software setting/config that is causing you to see it more than someone with a lesser rig..

And here is a perfect example of which I speak..

Radeon Pro profiler for a much much better sim.

Here a guy named GOZR was having the stutter issues.. like so many here.. Than he tried something and wa-la stutters are gone!

Prior to that he like so many were probably pointing the finger at CoD..

When all the while it was some 'other' software causing the stutters

Not saying GOZR's problem is your problem.. Just that it is most likely something like that for you too

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan21cag (Post 367929)
and ill beat Ace O Aces to the punch lol I know what I say is subjective. We get it, EVERYTHING in the world is subjective including my silly joking comment that everything in the world is subjective lol any way ill check back in with you guys in a few months and see if anything has changed:)

No not everything is subjective

For example..

How fast is fast?

If you tell a socker mom with a mini van..

"I was driving so 'fast' today to get home"

In her mind she is probably imagining you driving at 70mph.. Why? Well because for her driving 55mph is 'normal' for her and driving 70mph in her mind is 'fast'

Now if you tell a high school kid with a 5.0 mustang..

"I was driving so 'fast' today to get home"

In his mind he is probably imagining you driving at 110mph.. Why? Well because for him driving 90mph is 'normal' for him and driving 110mph in his mind is fast!

Now note in both cases no actual speed 'value' was ever mentioned.. Same statement in both cases, but two different people came up with two different values of 'fast' in their mind

Hence the word fast is 'subjective'

But now tell both the socker mom and the high school kid

"I was driving 75mph today to get home"

And both the socker mom and high school kid are on the same sheet of music.. Why? Because enough detail was provided such that neither had to fill in the blanks with their life experiences

SAVVY?

Chivas 12-07-2011 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan21cag (Post 367929)
The silver lining is that the system i bought thinking it would easily run CLOD full tilt, now runs all of the other games i play, new and old, in such stunning detail I have no reason to be mad :) With out CLOD I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on such a hefty new rig so soon :) it is a shame though that I may need to be upgrading again by the time all the issues get worked out.

P.S 66 pages of dialog on this topic is just jaw dropping lol anyone who makes it to the end from the start gets a DFC from me :P

specs below
just tried the game again just now to refresh my memory. I still get stutters at all graphics levels and playable yet not all that exciting game play out of it.

and ill beat Ace O Aces to the punch lol I know what I say is subjective. We get it, EVERYTHING in the world is subjective including my silly joking comment that everything in the world is subjective lol any way ill check back in with you guys in a few months and see if anything has changed:)

Cheers

full specs
CASE: Cooler Master Elite 430

CPU: AMD Phenom™II X4 970 Black Edition Quad-Core

CASE Cooling: 1x140mm 5x120mm

CPU Cooling: CoolerMaster V8 CPU Cooler

HDD1: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC SSD (way to small in hindsight)

HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (1TB x 2 (2 TB
Capacity) Raid 0

MEMORY: Corsair 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel

MOTHERBOARD: Asus M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AMD 890FX Chipset

Cross Fire Single Monitor (currently 42in Viewable FP 1920x1080 HD TV)

OS: Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming PS

VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe

VIDEO2: AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe

You wouldn't happen to have the Epilepsy Filter turned ON would you, and also try turning Crossfire OFF, if on.

Crane 12-07-2011 05:52 AM

Yes trying to run CLOD in crossfire or SLI is not good, trying to use FSAA is also not good. Please note that this is nothing to do with the rubbish coding of CLOD its all to do with your rubbish PC or your rubbish software. Also if you see flickering shadows on trees or if you suffer from object 'pop up' or any stutter then this is also down to your rubbish PC or software and nothing to do with the rubbish coding of CLOD. If all your other games run perfectly in the highest resolutions with everything maxed out then its because your PC is rubbish or the software is set up badly.

AOA lmfao


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