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Chivas 12-05-2011 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nearmiss (Post 367497)
If a software is Beta, Alpha or Release code it is pretty well known there are still possible issues you will have using it.
Very true. Personally I don't care what they call it, but its definitely unfinished. Even if its considered finished in the next year or so it will still be upgraded and refined for atleast another ten years.

icarus 12-05-2011 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 367505)
Well.. not based on Maus's definition of beta.. If I am reading Maus's definition correctly, to qualify as 'alpha' the 'bug' would have to be CLEARLY a bug.. That is to say it does not work as 'expected' by the programers logic..

Correct me if I am wrong, but that 'feature' was disabled by 1C prior to release, thus the programer disabled it, thus the programer would expect it to be disabled. Thus it is working per the programers loigc and thus not a bug


No, that does not count as a bug.. Not only is this not CLEAR but it is very subjective! That is to say ask 10 people what they think about the AI in CoD and your likly to get 10 differnt ansiwers.. which is not CLEAR by any definition


No, that does not count as a bug.. Because the developer decided to 'upgrade' something does not mean it is a bug


DX 11 was never advertised (aka promised).. Only DX11 API support was advertised and CoD dose make use of the DX11 API, so the is not a bug


As I half expected.. You could provide no CLEAR/VISABLE bugs


And many like you.. Problem is upon closer inspection it is more myth than fact
Whatever.
As with many like you, you can't tell the truth about the shortcomings of this sim without lame protectionist arguments to hide the problems. Perhaps I should calibrate my monitor LOL. Oh and BTW, Ubisoft is still advertising DX11. http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-o.../key-features/ LOL.

ACE-OF-ACES 12-05-2011 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367518)
Whatever.
As with many like you, you can't tell the truth about the shortcomings of this sim without lame protectionist arguments to hide the problems.
As expected.. You can not provide '1' example of which you claim to be CLEAR and plentiful.. Which says a lot about your argument! As for you trying to take the focus off of that FACT your now trying to put words in my mouth as to what I consider to be short coming? Please! I have plenty of issues with CoD, but mine are based in reality not myths

Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367518)
Perhaps I should calibrate my monitor LOL.
Something.. because you falling prey to myths that are upsetting you for no real reason

Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367518)
Oh and BTW, Ubisoft is still advertising DX11 support. LOL.
Actually that is another myth that you have fallen prey too.. No where does UBI or 1C advertise DX11 support, they advertise DX11 API support which is very different

icarus 12-05-2011 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 367521)
As expected.. You can not provide '1' example of which you claim to be CLEAR and plentiful.. Which says a lot about your argument! As for you trying to take the focus off of that FACT your now trying to put words in my mouth as to what I consider to be short coming? Please! I have plenty of issues with CoD, but mine are based in reality not myths


Something.. because you falling prey to myths that are upsetting you for no real reason


Actually that is another myth that you have fallen prey too.. No where does UBI or 1C advertise DX11 support, they advertise DX11 API support which is very different
There are no bugs in CoD. It is perfect coding. DX11 is not an API. Some things you believe. LOL

Can't argue with someone who thinks these things.:rolleyes:

Crane 12-05-2011 06:05 PM
Alpha, beta who cares, what was released was 90% Crap, 9 months down the line and its 50% crap. Yes i can play the game but it still stutters and crashes to desktop every 10 mins which frankly is appalling.

Ignore AOA he's just after a free version of BOM or something sexual. :-)

icarus 12-05-2011 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crane (Post 367525)
Alpha, beta who cares, what was released was 90% Crap, 9 months down the line and its 50% crap. Yes i can play the game but it still stutters and crashes to desktop every 10 mins which frankly is appalling.

Ignore AOA he's just after a free version of BOM or something sexual. :-)
Here here.

Ze-Jamz 12-05-2011 06:27 PM
Profanity, vulgarity are prohibted on this forum.

You must understand there are some members that aggravate responses such as yours. You get banned and they enjoy it.

Enough Already...Dont you ever get tired arguing the same pointless bs

ACE-OF-ACES 12-05-2011 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367523)
There are no bugs in CoD. It is perfect coding.
Hey.. Your the one that said there were crystal clear examples of bugs that qualified CoD as a 'alpha' product.. So dont get upset with me because you were not able to provide '1'

Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367523)
DX11 is not an API. Some things you believe. LOL
Sorry but you are wrong.. Take a closer look at that link you yourself provided and note it says DX 10 and DX 11 API support..

On a related note, you can edit your conf.ini file such that CoD will use DX11 feature levels..

So not only does CoD make use of the DX 11 API but it can also run DX 11 feature levels.. Just not very well because at the time of the release, Oleg noted there were issue with Microsofts DX 11 features level that caused 1C to default to DX 10 feature levels

Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus (Post 367523)
Can't argue with someone who thinks these things.:rolleyes:
Just as I can not converse (argue) with someone that claims there are plenty of CLEAR bugs examples in CoD that qualify it as a 'alpha' release..

But can not provide one

ACE-OF-ACES 12-05-2011 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crane (Post 367525)
Alpha, beta who cares, what was released was 90% Crap, 9 months down the line and its 50% crap. Yes i can play the game but it still stutters and crashes to desktop every 10 mins which frankly is appalling.
Yet there are plenty of people who dont have those problems.. Which would imply it has more to do with your PC than CoD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crane (Post 367525)
Ignore AOA he's just after a free version of BOM or something sexual. :-)
When whinners can't provide one example of something claim to be true, they resort to name calling. Typical

smink1701 12-05-2011 06:58 PM
The next patch will tell much about the future of this game. MUCH has been promised so it will be interesting to see what's delivered. Track record has been very unimpressive IMO. I was playing ROF the other day and I must say that while not perfect in many ways it does feel like you are in the moment. With CLoD it is pretty to look at but very little else as far as immersion. I'm talking about the SP mode which is what I play. I think the AI is one of the biggest problems. When you are on the enemy's six and he starts darting around I hit Esc. .:(


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