I'm sorry some of you are disappointed with BoP. I myself am a flight simmer from as far back as - wait for it - the late 80's. I went the PC route for a decade, pouring money into upgrades, flight sticks and graphics cards. I have since given up that overtly expensive addiction and kept my gaming to the Xbox 360.

Which brings me to my point; Il2 - BoP may not be your miraculous cross over from PC to console but it does offer a thrilling flight experience, unrivaled on gaming consoles. Sure, not starting off at the airfield, no remapping of controls, touchy controls and lack of crucial virtual cockpits are issues but it's not enough to write the game off. The devs have done a fantastic job and we should be grateful and hopeful that we may get more and more flight sims on consoles - especially as PC flight sims are almost extinct.

I am having a great time and can't get enough. I'm also extremely impressed with the skills of some online pilots.

I do wish for more immersion, replays, etc. but perhaps that will come in time. For now it's a welcome change to FPS'ers and car racing.

Thumbs UP!

Another thumbs UP!

ahhh Kartman you were owning the hell out of me online today lol...and when I finally, FINALLY had you in my sights and was pumping hot lead into you the FREAKING ROUND ENDED!!
Broken Xbox 360

Add me as a friend and we'll go at it again. Although my dogfighting skills leave a lot to be desired - very rusty, very rusty.

Thanks for the thumbs up fellas :grin:

Well said Kartman. Nice to read a constructive, level-headed series of opinions & views. I have a thing or two in common with you, it would seem, from being a simmer from as far back & I'll admit I was more than desperate to want the realism & immersive experience on my console. All I wanted was IL-2 from the comfort of my living room; so much so that I didn't hesitate to order up a copy for each of my consoles. The true SIM experience in my view is about the overall mission. The dogfight is just half of the ingredient. Limping away from a hard fought dogfight with a damaged plane & possible wrecked gear & wondering if you'll even make it back to base to finish your mission & then to try & get it to the ground in one piece; I started this thread after halfway through the Scicily campaign whereby the secondary objective at the end (after having your mission start some 300 metres from your target), was to merely leave the combat zone ...

My opinions obviously haven't made me many friends here at BOP so maybe it's time to go quiet & let everyone enjoy their game.

I will agree with your comment also on the quality & skill of some of these guys on the harder settings though & I do commend those of us that don't cheat in a flawed MP that almost invites a bad loser to ditch his or her plane when they have been out flown & out gunned.

+1 for going quiet and not continuing this. Obviously nobody is going to change anybody else's opinions here, although I will admit many good points were made on both sides of the discussion.