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fuzzychickens 09-10-2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by radiokomrad (Post 98945)
wait you guys can't check your six on a hotas? i use the thumb and button on the throttle simultaneously to do that. it is pretty intuitive for me. i have it set on thrustmaster 2.

I played for a few days on AV8R on PS3 - but the rudder is so "on/off" it's useless.

So I play online with gamepad for now - it makes my flying in general pretty bad - but once I get behind an enemy I find having better rudder control gives me a few more kills.

I'm thinking about the thrustmaster now - but I think I'm gonna wait to see if Anton has more news on sticks.

Pup 09-10-2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiokomrad (Post 98945)
wait you guys can't check your six on a hotas? i use the thumb and button on the throttle simultaneously to do that. it is pretty intuitive for me. i have it set on thrustmaster 2.

The what button? The only way I know to view behind you at the moment is if you are in arcade or realistic and can select a target that is behind you, and then use the target camera, or be in the external view mode and press down on the hatswitch, which is not very useful for people who tend to play solely in cockpit view.

ptisinge 09-10-2009 02:31 AM

I'd like to hear what Anton has to announce about the ps3 sticks as well...
I wish there was simply a button/axes assignment option, I could then simply go on using my old Saitek X 45 (which would work well if the rudder was assigned to something...).
Otherwise I'd probably go for the hotas X or the aviator, but for that I need to hear how their respective flaws are going to be fixed (they'd better be fixed because the rudder, looking around or braking problems are pretty serious, and the gamepad doesn't feel like a serious option to me...).
So, please let us know asap Anton :)

FilthyPrick 09-10-2009 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiokomrad (Post 98945)
wait you guys can't check your six on a hotas? i use the thumb and button on the throttle simultaneously to do that. it is pretty intuitive for me. i have it set on thrustmaster 2.

Dude could you be more specific and confirm this statement - if correct it could solve the only (but very serious) flaw in the T.Master?

Maxtor 09-10-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 93894)
So how does the Ace edge actually manage that? You must have to use a shift button for one of the analog controls?

I don't have a stick yet so I'm no expert but I thought the whole problem with the configs is that there aren't enough analog directions available on the consoles. Obviously you need one 4 direction analog stick for flight controls, 1 analog direction for the throttle(The control pad uses the left analog stick but I seems to me it is acting as just a digital in the up down directions of the throttle), 4 analog directions for the hat and finally 2 directions for the rudder. 11 total directions. Unfortunatly thats 1 too many for the PS3 and 360.

The PS3 controller also has the movement sensors which are analogue, the PS3 itself is capable of handling more analogue inputs. I guess these issues will be sorted sooner or later.

caphead 09-10-2009 09:08 PM

annoying is what it is! no flightstick for ps3 right now works like it should in this game.

Graiskye 09-11-2009 01:24 AM

Welcome to the world of flightstik misery
 
I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.
After you all go through 2 or 3 of the cheap ones youll realise I am right, there isnt anything that is much harder on a joystic than trying to dogfight with one. If you want a real experience you have to go PC, and a buy z cougar from thrustmater(299.00) most everything else is pure shite comparatively.
The cheap sticks will work, for a bit, dont get me wrong, but they will break down very quickly, iv had 'premum' logitech stiks last less than a day efore the pots were out of whack, and fighting wit them became unbearable.
If the comapany cares about tthe game, which I doubt, they are just hoping to sell a few billion copies, which they figure probably most of then willk sit on the shelf after the inital buzz wears off, Il2 can forget about their console 'joke' and get back to 'real simming', OR they will take the consolers serious(I hope this happens) and they will get put into play a joystick that can actually handle the rigors of dogfighting and can be hooked to an X box,PS-3. I am not sure if the Cougar for Thrustmaster will work ona PS 3 but if it will, this is the stik to get. The Cougar is damn near indestructible, made of metal, and modeled off a f-16 actual joystick in the cockpit.
Have fun with this stuff, but realize if the joystick is cheap you are getting a cheap joystick, DUH.
-Grais

Smidlee 09-11-2009 01:47 AM

@ Graiskye
If you read carefully you will realize that some have noted that the "cheap" hotas flight stick does not have this dead zones when it's hooked up to the PC. It seems to be how the game or game system reads the stick. So even if you have a thousand dollar flight stick there will still be a dead zone.
I serious doubt a pc stick design to run on a driver will work on a console. So spending a $150 on a flight stick to play IL-2 for the ps3/x360 will probably be as useful as spending $150 on Track IR 5.

caphead 09-11-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Graiskye (Post 99446)
I find it laughable that ll these new flightsim junkies are crying about their 50.00 hotas stick not working the way they want it. Ha ha, as a player of flight sims for longer than I care to think about, this is the norm when you pay less than 150.00 fo a decent flightstik.
All the cheap ones, ie anything under 150.00 have the same problems, cheap ass pots that wear out, have 'deadly' dead zones, and are just plain craptastic.

dude dont give me that, i played this game since the original il2 sturmovik release on pc! and tell me what choices do the ps3 have with flight stick options! sure i used ch products on the pc but do they work on ps3 no! so shut the **** up about your overpriced gear! god i hate people who dont have a frigging clue!

ppizzi 09-11-2009 09:00 PM

Remapping
 
This is a truly great effort of a sim on a console - excellent work and props to the devs.

My only issue is the lack of remapping for the ps3 flight sticks....please, please please consider this as an update if any devs are reading. I really can't fully enjoy the experience with this major issue.

Thanks for the great sim!


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