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KG26_Alpha 08-06-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing (Post 87965)
Actually this isn't true. They would have to have intimate knowlege of what was put into CRT=2 and it will still have to pass the checksum. I highly doubt anyone would be trying. It's usually some clown with a very obvious hack. Seen any lately on servers running CRT=2? doubt it.

This whole hacking conspiracy stuff gets way too much credit. Sure early days we saw it but it was pretty minimal at best. In addition those getting caught as you suggested above would quickly be ostracized by the community.

Wrong

The hacks are there they are just kept quiet even at squad level they use them and keep it quiet.

Where you had 1 or 2 guys running in servers with "special features" lets say, there's a lot more spread across a bigger playing field nationally, the Russians have been at it for years especially pre v4.05m everyone's just caught up with them.

Its nothing new but dont kid your self crt=2 stops people flying with hacks on.

Blackdog_kt 08-06-2009 11:48 PM

Is it that difficult to submit a track to a server admin and get the offender banned? I don't think so and that's why you don't see many people doing such stuff.

I've never seen someone blatantly cheating on the few servers i fly on, but then again i'm only flying online sporadically. On the other hand, i do keep up to date on those servers' forums almost on a daily basis and i'd say that after years of doing so, i've maybe seen less than 5 documented cases of cheating.

It might be an issue on online tournaments, but on DF servers i'd say that encountering a cheater once every few months is a price i'm willing to pay for all the added content. Of course, it's a matter of personal opinion and how much it annoys each one, so i'm not going to try to convince anyone. I'm just saying that after flying a few hundred sorties and reading a few thousand forum posts, i've seen literally a handful of real cases with concrete evidence to back them up.

Maybe someone is circumventing the difficulty settings and flying around with wonder woman view enabled on the same servers as me and nobody caught him yet, but that's hardly a massive advantage compared to FM/DM hacks, especially if he can't fly properly...and he probably can't to be using such things in the first place, so he'll get shot down anyway, throw a tandrum and leave.

JG27CaptStubing 08-07-2009 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 88054)
Wrong

The hacks are there they are just kept quiet even at squad level they use them and keep it quiet.

Where you had 1 or 2 guys running in servers with "special features" lets say, there's a lot more spread across a bigger playing field nationally, the Russians have been at it for years especially pre v4.05m everyone's just caught up with them.

Its nothing new but dont kid your self crt=2 stops people flying with hacks on.


I fly in in a Squad and there is very little in the way of Hacks in the squads for reasons metioned above so in terms of being wrong I think not.

It's okay you keep on thinking it's wide spread. I won't take the time to convince you otherwise as it's just a waste of a thread. CRT for sure stops hacks that have anything to do with FMs DMs and or weapons. Fact. You can say I'm wrong but I understand how the new CRT=2 works in the 4.09 server. There is a reason many of the servers made the jump shortly after it's release.

Anyone going through the work to try and work around it I say set your hair on fire because it's such a waste of time.

Tree_UK 08-07-2009 09:06 AM

I have not seen anything recently that has been suspicious, but i do remember vividly a well known Russiun squad that were up to all manner of cheating but this was many years ago and no-one would believe you at the time. The name Youssef springs to mind but not sure if the spelling is correct.

KG26_Alpha 08-07-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 88198)
I have not seen anything recently that has been suspicious, but i do remember vividly a well known Russiun squad that were up to all manner of cheating but this was many years ago and no-one would believe you at the time. The name Youssef springs to mind but not sure if the spelling is correct.

Well exactly the same as I am saying right now with the mods out in the open and still the heads are in the sand !!!

Anyway my last post in this thread, its pointless if some one really believes crt=2 is stopping cheating then whatever :)

Tree_UK 08-07-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 88211)
Well exactly the same as I am saying right now with the mods out in the open and still the heads are in the sand !!!

Anyway my last post in this thread, its pointless if some one really believes crt=2 is stopping cheating then whatever :)

I hear what your saying Alpha, but before the mods many people would simply not accept that the code had been comprimised so very few people would believe what you had witnessed. However since the mods it seems everyone has become more vigilant knowing that hacks can be used, again recording a track is the most simple way to catch these fools.

Lucas_From_Hell 08-07-2009 01:35 PM

I don't really care about the hunted seeing my plane before because of open cockpit. His cockpit might be invisible, but to me he will still fill my gunsight anyway. :cool:

JG27CaptStubing 08-07-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 88198)
I have not seen anything recently that has been suspicious, but i do remember vividly a well known Russiun squad that were up to all manner of cheating but this was many years ago and no-one would believe you at the time. The name Youssef springs to mind but not sure if the spelling is correct.


I remember the clown in question... Noticed if he is around anymore? Poof all that nonsense has gone away. I have yet to see anything odd.

Also for the most part this crowd is much better about managing those types of people. They tend to get cast out. This isn't some shooter like Crysis.

JG27CaptStubing 08-07-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell (Post 88248)
I don't really care about the hunted seeing my plane before because of open cockpit. His cockpit might be invisible, but to me he will still fill my gunsight anyway. :cool:

Like you I could give a rats if he has an open cockpit and my plane is wearing a pink suit... at some point there has to be skill. This game requires skills that take time to develop. If the guy is so wrapped around the axle about cheating I bet if he invested the time to learn the game it would be so much nicer.

In terms of early days yes I remember the clowns but for the most part they tended to stay in the circus set of servers where the other clowns played. Flying around in clown cars with 20 guys in the trunk is the visual I get.

Everything on those servers made no sense. Flying Top of the Line stuff in the most goofy setups is not my cup of tea.

Good news is I haven't seen it on any of the 4.09 servers so far.

robtek 08-07-2009 05:12 PM

I also think that the cheater-problem (if there is one) will resolve itself
as the cheaters will soon get bored with always winning or if they have overdone it
getting banned and will leave for new, more interesting playgrounds like RoF or something like that where they can be "kings" again in their small minds.
<most of the online (or offline) players of IL2 are too adult to fall for cheap earnings (i hope).


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