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Tree_UK

09-21-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber (Post 462682)

So when should he sleep and work on the game, run his crew and say hi to his wife? :rolleyes:

I dont know Farby, but last week was the first post Luthier had made in 5 months, so you are right he deserves a break.

Robert

09-21-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HorrorRoach (Post 461526)

A perfectly working COD would turn alot of head and create free advertising on it's own. A perfectly working BOM is wishful thinking considering their track record.

1C/Maddox will garner more money for development by the financial backers than a few hundred or thousand added sales of CoD. The pocket books believe the development crew is able to right the ship or they wouldn't invest in the series. We, the buying public, are skeptical because of their track record, but if the financial backers believe in investing the money, I have to think/hope they will be able to release a product that will satisfy many of us.

It's understandable the disdain some cast toward CoD. The BoB was a huge swing point of WW2. There's a huge feeling of national pride by our British members, and having the sim faulter as bad as it did is a bitter pill. On a playing level, there were glaring errors which add to that frustration. Unless the group really are charlitans and have no personal pride in their work, I can't see any one releasing the game in the state it was released except that they were under the gun to release it. I don't believe Luthier et al are charlitans, and they do have a sense of personal pride. For what ever reasons (and they've been discussed ad nauseum) the game was sold in the state it was.

But production goes forward, and the backers believe in the developers. We can only hope they're right. I'll hedge my bet and watch with great interst, and a cautious eye. I think that's fair, and 1C knows it. They have an uphill battle to win back many flight simmers. I hope they pull it off. The backers think they can.

jcenzano

09-21-2012 03:01 PM

it is true it is a small market, but also a market of "older than average in videogames market" customers, and therefore with more money to spend (generally speaking).

We simmers are also loyal to a good product (sometimes even to a bad one).

I for one have bought every single item released for ROF and I hardly play it (I don´t want to calculate the total...)

I would rather pay for extra content if that means also extra support.

@B6, is there any way to support the company through donations????

I would be willing to do so if that means it helps.

335th_GRAthos

09-21-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rga (Post 461535)

Well, the situation is pretty much like what happened to Total War series. Empire Total war was one of the most anticipated games of the year, reviewers gave it very high scores, but when gamers actually got their hand on it, they got massively disappointed due to bugs and gameplay issues. CA released some patches which did virtually nothing, then drop the game altogether. They turned to the sequel, Napoleon Total war, which was nothing but a polished version of ETW with new units. Fortunately, this time they did it right as most bugs of ETW were squashed. New game in the series, Shogun 2, won back the love of fans, and now they (me included) are so excited about the new project: Rome 2.

This is a great example, it would be great if they manage to turn the table around with the sequel.

I would immediately (and I will) pay for the sequel, in order to see the progress done.
I know, some people in this forum would say I should not pay again for something that was supposed to have been fixed at first place (paying only once), I do not care about such comments, I am only interested in having the most advanced WW2 flight simulation and CoD is obviously the best platform with the biggest potential in the market today.

~S~

ATAG_Snapper

09-21-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 462755)

esmiol

09-21-2012 11:02 PM

MegOhm

09-21-2012 11:10 PM

Pretty funny B6 Doesn't fly CLOD...opts instead for DCS and others

Guess he knows it sux...

IL2 1946 with HSFX is the best thing going for this ERA.

CLOD sadly is SOS...over and over

Rowddy

09-22-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HorrorRoach (Post 461516)

Their line of thinking is all wrong.

"Unfortunately, as all businesses we have goals, budgets, profits, losses, expenses, and wages. We have milestones to meet with our future products, and we just cannot miss those."

"Most of you have probably guessed that Cliffs of Dover was not exactly the most profitable project in the world, and for at least the past year supporting it did nothing for the bottom line but put it deeper into the red."

They're acting like they can't make money off Cliffs of Dover anymore. This is ridiculous. It's not like the market is "tapped out"... As a matter of fact, the fastest way for them to make money is to fix Cliffs of Dover so more people buy it. Some advertising would help too. The money they're spending on developing the sequel should be used to advertise Cliffs of Dover. All company personnel should be working on making Cliffs of Dover a game that people are forced to buy because it's awesome. I don't want to hear crap about how the flight sim market is small, not many people are into these types of game... The sales will never be spectacular. Well, make a damn game that increases the simmer base, give newcomers motivation to overcome the learning curve required to enjoy the game. You just need an awesome game.

They're going to make this sequel, and it's not going to be much better then COD is now. Mark my words. They're going to keep releasing half finished products for spurts of money to keep afloat. I think they're only half serious about these games.

EJ

You realy have nothing better to do then spamming these TROLL posts?? get a life forgodsake

naz	09-22-2012 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos (Post 462755)

Completely agree.

Also agree with rga on his observations of Empire Total War ... You could have been talking about me mate! :grin: ...Empire was a massive disappointment and I never bought Napoleon...Shogun 2 won me back though and I am looking forward to Rome 2. Hopefully MG can do the same with customers they have lost.

Fredfetish

09-22-2012 07:44 AM

I totally disagree with the Empire and Clod analogy.

From my enjoyment of the game, the huge amount of mods and the constant patches received, I think maybe your perception of the general success of the Empire vs Clod is a bit off.

Just go to TWCentre and see the difference in the communities and decide whether Empire was such a huge flop.

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