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axelle 09-29-2010 04:57 PM

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here you go!

have no idea why it says 600+ werewolves, i had less than 150. 250+ turns lol, the fight took over an hour of real life time!!!

but yes i waited until "night" time and man those werewolves do TONS of damage.

as you can see in the second image, after the fight i dismissed all those troops and bought black dragons! the final fight will be a piece of cake!

axelle 09-29-2010 09:43 PM

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yay, i think i did pretty good as a mage without any extra-exp artifact/ancient scroll. it's funny how the "final fight" gives LESS exp than the suppression fight for perfect shoes. and also, the final fight lasted 10 rounds where as the suppression fight 250+ rounds...

question for lore: if you abuse troll then did you have to wait until "night time" which would be day 2...

Zechnophobe 09-29-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by axelle (Post 185710)
here you go!

have no idea why it says 600+ werewolves, i had less than 150. 250+ turns lol, the fight took over an hour of real life time!!!

but yes i waited until "night" time and man those werewolves do TONS of damage.

as you can see in the second image, after the fight i dismissed all those troops and bought black dragons! the final fight will be a piece of cake!

You cast Phantom on the werewolves a bunch? Maybe dupe with archmage? The post battle thing will show damage done by summons, and the total number of them for the fight.

loreangelicus 09-29-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by axelle (Post 185773)
yay, i think i did pretty good as a mage without any extra-exp artifact/ancient scroll. it's funny how the "final fight" gives LESS exp than the suppression fight for perfect shoes. and also, the final fight lasted 10 rounds where as the suppression fight 250+ rounds...

question for lore: if you abuse troll then did you have to wait until "night time" which would be day 2...

That is definitely a massive score for not even using a single +XP item, congratulations! And this is where the scoring fails, since you definitely went through a harder game than I did (I didn't take on any level 5 item suppression battles, which is A LOT harder than any of the built-in fights in this campaign). I definitely tip my hat off to you. :)

Night time is still part of day one, and it starts at 21:00 (9pm). I actually had to leave my game unpaused for a couple of minutes to get to nighttime. With such a small island, it was quite easy to clean up everything by 23:00.

I was initially confused by your score though; 747 seems odd since if you finished the game on day 1 and impossible difficulty at level 25 then your score should have been 754 (level 24 gets 744 and level 26 gets 763). But now I understand why you asked about the troll nighttime tactic; you used the nighttime trick on the werewolves and finished the game in day 2.

From KBTL and KBAP I developed the habit of always pausing the game when not in combat or not doing anything. But this is just a pausing the game "tactic"; no biggie, I'm sure you could have done it in 1 day as well if you wanted to.

axelle 09-30-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by loreangelicus (Post 185796)
That is definitely a massive score for not even using a single +XP item, congratulations! And this is where the scoring fails, since you definitely went through a harder game than I did (I didn't take on any level 5 item suppression battles, which is A LOT harder than any of the built-in fights in this campaign). I definitely tip my hat off to you. :)

Night time is still part of day one, and it starts at 21:00 (9pm). I actually had to leave my game unpaused for a couple of minutes to get to nighttime. With such a small island, it was quite easy to clean up everything by 23:00.

I was initially confused by your score though; 747 seems odd since if you finished the game on day 1 and impossible difficulty at level 25 then your score should have been 754 (level 24 gets 744 and level 26 gets 763). But now I understand why you asked about the troll nighttime tactic; you used the nighttime trick on the werewolves and finished the game in day 2.

From KBTL and KBAP I developed the habit of always pausing the game when not in combat or not doing anything. But this is just a pausing the game "tactic"; no biggie, I'm sure you could have done it in 1 day as well if you wanted to.

ya i didn't know that night time starts at 21:00. i went to cook some food while un-paused and came back and it was a bit after midnight and i thought: perfect!

thanks for the compliment!

do you use the KBscanner? if so, what's "Troll" and "scroll ancient knowledge" called exactly? I am trying to save/scan a save where i can get both ancient knowledge scroll and troll. so if you don't mind, load up the good save that you had, the one with troll and ancient knowledge in one shop, and then look at the scanner report and see what exactly those are called please.

axelle 09-30-2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zechnophobe (Post 185795)
You cast Phantom on the werewolves a bunch? Maybe dupe with archmage? The post battle thing will show damage done by summons, and the total number of them for the fight.

nope didn't use phantom.

i also had this problem with vampires, so i am thinking it must be either the "shift/transform" ability (i am pretty sure that it's this one that messes the computer report up), or the bloodsucking ability (werewolves have a 30% chance of sucking a percentage of casualties to regenerate during night time, but i only had like 5 regenerated so i don't think it's this one)

loreangelicus 09-30-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by axelle (Post 185801)
o you use the KBscanner? if so, what's "Troll" and "scroll ancient knowledge" called exactly? I am trying to save/scan a save where i can get both ancient knowledge scroll and troll. so if you don't mind, load up the good save that you had, the one with troll and ancient knowledge in one shop, and then look at the scanner report and see what exactly those are called please.

You already have it correct: "Troll" and "Scroll Ancient Knowledge", though for AK I just ctrl-F for "knowl".

You might as well make sure that you have a lot of suppressable items. In my case, while I had 4 AK scrolls (and one dug up AK) available, I only had 6 suppression battles available; not that I'm complaining much, mind you. :)

Good luck again! If you do make another DotC run, join me afterwards at CotA. :)

axelle 09-30-2010 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by loreangelicus (Post 185803)
You already have it correct: "Troll" and "Scroll Ancient Knowledge", though for AK I just ctrl-F for "knowl".

You might as well make sure that you have a lot of suppressable items. In my case, while I had 4 AK scrolls (and one dug up AK) available, I only had 6 suppression battles available; not that I'm complaining much, mind you. :)

Good luck again! If you do make another DotC run, join me afterwards at CotA. :)

this version's translation seems messed up...

for example, there is no scroll anymore, and the spell names sound like google translate...

i am doing a paladin run and the only thing that sounds close to magic spring is this
Crystal Valley Magic Tower spell_magic_bondage 4 lizard
:confused:

loreangelicus 09-30-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by axelle (Post 185827)
this version's translation seems messed up...

for example, there is no scroll anymore, and the spell names sound like google translate...

i am doing a paladin run and the only thing that sounds close to magic spring is this
Crystal Valley Magic Tower spell_magic_bondage 4 lizard
:confused:

Hmmm... make sure your KBScanner settings are correct, like pointing to the right loc_ses.kfs file (in Windows 7 it looks something like "C:\Program Files (x86)\1C\King's Bounty. Armored Princess\sessions\addon\loc_ses.kfs") and make sure you have the "Translate object codes into text" checked.

I've attached a sample report file to give you an idea of what the proper output should look like.

You don't happen to have a non-English version, do you? :)

axelle 09-30-2010 08:27 PM

oh thanks lore. i was pointing to the wrong kfs.


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