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Shadowcorp 06-15-2010 01:46 AM

The solution is simple and would add a level of realism sadly missing on the bombers,
Killable gun positions, you can shoot out an engine why not the man operating gun position on a bomber?
Hopefully it will be included on the next game.
I always found and i'm sure a few people will agree the me 262 is the most effective way to deal with bombers though they do take a little time to get used to

Cap'n Crunch 06-15-2010 02:21 AM

Soviet planes had major problems during the war. Read Sebag Montefiore's "Stalin The Court of Red Tsar". Although it's not specifically about the Red Air Force, it contains some stunning revelations about it's war time record and leadership. His sources are the politburos own papers opened for examination after 91.

Basically in a nutshell, more than 50% total war time Russian built aircraft losses were due neither to combat nor pilot error. The Red Air Force literally was falling out of the skies. It's upper leadership was executed immediately after the war, just days after, all before the end of 45.

Also little known among aviation fans, Mikoyan's brother was a senior member of the Politburo and presidium, during the war he was in line to succeed Stalin. They were one of the most politically powerful families in the country, even though not ethnic Russians.

Some other interesting tidbits in the book, Stalin's son Vasily killed a HSU pilot while horsing around using BRS Rockets to fish during the war on one of his outings.

It was Vasily who also brought accusations against the top VVS leadership just prior to the war, helping his father eliminate the top echelon just weeks before the war kicked off.

olife 06-15-2010 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbysocks (Post 164466)
watch out doing that, my friend.

can u explain me "watch out doing that,my friend"

don' t understand my english is bad,sorry

David603 06-15-2010 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 164239)
Well there you go. I learned something new lol.

Did a bit of searching and reading. Can't find any mention on why the allison engine suddenly didn't need to have then airscoop on top rather than underneith the engine. It seems to me to be part of the modification that gave the allison a two stage supercharger though. I now know that most the Twin Mustangs went back to using Allisons (even though they were weaker) for political reasons. I expect these fake engined Mustangs are from old F-82's and are all in the US then and why Ive never come across one.

One thing I can't understand. I still count 6 exausts in the photos?

Perhaps the exhausts from the Merlin are still being used? It should be possible, since both engines are V12s of a similar configuration. It would also make the V-1710 sound more like a Merlin.

Something else I found out about civilian Mustangs is that removing the military equipment (guns, armor, surplus fuel tanks and WWII vintage radio equipment) shaves off around 2,500 lbs from the Mustangs weight, which is roughly a quarter of the loaded weight of a wartime P51D. If the guys who made the Flight 1 P51 for FSX used one of these Mustangs for their flight characteristics, then no wonder it flies so well ;)

Soviet Ace 06-15-2010 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 164519)
Perhaps the exhausts from the Merlin are still being used? It should be possible, since both engines are V12s of a similar configuration. It would also make the V-1710 sound more like a Merlin.

Something else I found out about civilian Mustangs is that removing the military equipment (guns, armor, surplus fuel tanks and WWII vintage radio equipment) shaves off around 2,500 lbs from the Mustangs weight, which is roughly a quarter of the loaded weight of a wartime P51D. If the guys who made the Flight 1 P51 for FSX used one of these Mustangs for their flight characteristics, then no wonder it flies so well ;)

For randomness, I still stand that my Yak-3 could chew up your lovely Griffon powered Spitfire any day. :cool:

Balderz002 06-15-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 164521)
For randomness, I still stand that my Yak-3 could chew up your lovely Griffon powered Spitfire any day. :cool:

That is proper fighting talk I do beleive!

David603 06-15-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Balderz002 (Post 164553)
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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 164521)
For randomness, I still stand that my Yak-3 could chew up your lovely Griffon powered Spitfire any day. :cool:

That is proper fighting talk I do believe!

Fighting talk indeed :grin:

We never did have that match to settle things.......

Balderz002 06-15-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 164570)
Fighting talk indeed :grin:

We never did have that match to settle things.......

We cant tho, not a Griffon engined Spit. It was obviously too good for the game, so they left it out!

FOZ_1983 06-15-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Crosshair14 (Post 164503)
Do u see the future or something? O NO I feel that feeling too.O.O

Na, i dont predict the future, but i have a gut feeling ;) haha.

vdomini 06-15-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soviet Ace (Post 164521)
For randomness, I still stand that my Yak-3 could chew up your lovely Griffon powered Spitfire any day. :cool:


Me too! :-P

Lol i'm joking...but, le me say that Yak 3 is a very good plane! I love flying in that.


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