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MikkOwl 01-30-2010 11:57 AM

Wingman Team of course :P

Another very easy way to see the joystick device IDs is to open the control panel and then the game devices. It shows them in order. ID1, ID2 etc, even though there are no numbers.

Qpassa 01-30-2010 01:05 PM

I have done a video. It looks like a crap but well I wanted to record how it works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEBkLo7iQjY
Thanks againt for your work MikkOwl

I used this config

Quote:

[control_devices]
; Your throttle devices. Default is set to G940 dual throttles.
;
; Whenever moving a throttle axis, it selects the engine
; that throttle axis controls, and deselects all the other
; engines. This is how IL-2 works.
;
; If only the first two throttles are assigned, they will use
; "select left engines" and "select right engines". This allows
; you to fly aircraft with four engines properly.
; Otherwise only the two engines on the left wing (engine 1
; and engine 2) would be controllable.

THROTTLE_1_AXIS=1joyy
THROTTLE_2_AXIS=1joyx
THROTTLE_3_AXIS=no
THROTTLE_4_AXIS=no




; If you have two seperate axis as toe brakes, such as on the
; G940 rudder pedals, you can control the wheel brakes
; seperately. Default assigned below is for the G940.

WHEEL_BRAKE_LEFT_AXIS=3joyx
WHEEL_BRAKE_RIGHT_AXIS=3joyy

Stanger 01-30-2010 03:00 PM

Is my setup wrong? When I push right toe brake carefully without rudder the rudder moves fully right. Maybe the toe brake is inputting both axis?

Qpassa 01-30-2010 03:09 PM

you have to config the mikkonfig

kimosabi 01-30-2010 04:12 PM

Haha, thanks Qpassa, loved the music. :grin:

MikkOwl 01-31-2010 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qpassa (Post 140555)
I have done a video. It looks like a crap but well I wanted to record how it works
Thanks againt for your work MikkOwl

I used this config

Haha, awesome video Qpassa. I'm sure the sight of the G940 having dual throttles working will get the blood going for people who love having more than one engine. I'm happy you got it working. Did you try the toe brakes? The individual engine buttons?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanger (Post 140582)
Is my setup wrong? When I push right toe brake carefully without rudder the rudder moves fully right. Maybe the toe brake is inputting both axis?

Did you read the instructions? The Toe brakes will manipulate the rudder if pressed, because IL-2 determines which wheel NOT to brake by the position of the rudder. This doesn't affect anything on the ground (unless you are taking off and try to use wheel brakes for some reason) - just don't use toe brakes when in the air ;)

TheGrunch 01-31-2010 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikkOwl (Post 140659)
just don't use toe brakes when in the air ;)

Could I suggest disabling the toe brakes while the gear is up. :)

MikkOwl 01-31-2010 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGrunch (Post 140667)
Could I suggest disabling the toe brakes while the gear is up. :)

That would be perfect - but there's no way of knowing when the gears are up or not :( Can make assumptions, but then the user would have to tell the program if we are starting in the air (gear already up) or on the ground.

I'm deaing with some people who downloaded and tried my program, launching the wrong files without checking any instructions, and then their computer acts strange and they blame me. Moreover, they also suggest that I'm trying to install malware/viruses/etc and that they are on to me. Ooookay there...

EDIT: Either way, I'm going to try and work out something for the toe pedal issues if anyone seems to have 'stutter' in their real world feet :P and having an angle that doesn't make the heels the pressure point. Maybe merge it with the tail-wheel lock function, because as far as I know, the tail wheel is ALWAYS unlocked even when starting in the air. But then one would pretty much need a reset button for this as well.

Maybe something else. I don't know what. I could scan the throttle axis and make it only manipulate the rudder if the throttles are at a certain setting, but I don't think that would work well either due to people using throttles in all kinds of ways when taking off, landing, and turning on the runway.

I could put in a 'deadzone' for the wheel brakes users can set up themselves maybe. That way they have to press them a bit more when using them, but less chance of inadvertent activation otherwise. I've personally never managed to accidentally press the toe brakes far enough (they have a noticable deadzone of travel before engaging to begin with).

JG301_HaJa 01-31-2010 06:51 AM

Well, there are idiots everywhere who doesn't feel the need to read a manual and thus wreaking havoc on things :)

MikkOwl 01-31-2010 06:55 AM

I abandoned yet another chance to fly on my favourite server to respond to people having problems, and to release the 3.2 version with the G940 reversal bug fixes. I'm rewriting the documentation and going to change other things to try to make it more 'fool proof'. I think while the documentation is very detailed and informative, it is probably too much for some people to even bother start reading.


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