Out of pure interest, how exactly does it affect battleships? It is my understanding that the battleships were designed by the Navy and then contracted to yards. With most BB actually being build in the Navys own yards. Or did I get that wrong?

This grummann story pi**ed off the entire community, also because it was not properly handled by UBI according to the available information. Frankly speaking there are so many non-grummann planes yet to model that I don't regret too much the lack of a Beartrap :D.

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Insuber

I'm not much into the liscence details and I'm no lawer, but AFAIK Grumman owns the rights on the ships designs and names too. Much properly they bought it later or ate another company who owned the rights before.

or BeerTrap ...
any way, Beartrap from DT will be much better than "FrankePlane" ... like Avenger with cockpit from SBD... or other mutation...

the avenger and tbf do have an abortion for an FM..

If lawyers will sue 90 year old grannies (or a scenario very similar) over copyright infringement of a couple of MP3s you can bet they will go after others over money they think is theirs.

Its still a stupid situation. I know.

At the very least there are other fun aircraft that we can still simulate that deserve some attention as well that aren't bound by such a stupid legal problem.

The B5N Kate for example! :grin:

Thanks to Team Daidalos for all you do!

So is the course of history
 

I salute thee again

A sad situation, yet be it Grumman's jingoism or mismanagement by Ubi, whatever the cause, lets look at what can be done an try to make the best out of it.

Luckily the "PTO problem" does not take Japanese planes nor ships into account (And there are quite a lot of them to choose from) yet I also understand that cockpit information on the later is rather scarce.

I also guess that your selection of indigenous British aircraft and ships are limited by their proximity to SOW,because it would be unproductive to start a "competition with" Maddox Games, or am I mistaken in my interpretation of that topic?.

Anyway keep up the good work

Kind Regards
Hunger

Alright... I said to myself I wasn't going to do a list again... but you made me do it :)

Typhoon Mark IB (perfect fit for Normandy BTW)
Spitfire XIV
Fairey Firefly
Fairey Barracuda
Lancaster
Halifax
B5N "Kate"
B6N "Jill"
D4Y "Judy"
Ki-44
Ki-45 "Nick"
Hs123
Me410

I could probably go on if I thought about it for long enough :)

Since the BOB SOW will be open for modifications it would seem that Grumman may have problems enforcing their limitations on "home" plane builders as they have with every other air combat or flight simulation game.

They might be able to prevent Oleg or MSFT, but just like youtube trying to keep all the media from broadcasters off the site. It is just too much work to try to enforce against the average "john doe".