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Swagger7 08-21-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by me262 (Post 91872)
No german cockpits "out of the box" how very dissapointing, makes me think twice about buying birds of prey now, so would you add german cockpits in the future especially me262's?

He's already said there should hopefully be some released by October. It sounds like the Me109, FW190 & Stuka have first priority (I'm going by his reply to guiltyspark over here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8950)

juz1 08-21-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by reverend66 (Post 91826)
Anton has spent more time answering questions on this board than any other developer of a game I've ever seen..

+1

Thats the thing with young people today...you give 'em gold and they complain its just shiny yellow...

Has anyone EVER met a developer on a forum prepared to answer questions?
(let alone a developer with a sense of humour....)

This ain't ass kissin, its plain and simple gratitude for someone giving us THE most precious commodity...their TIME.

So for anyone here bitching just stick to a golden rule...
NEVER say anything on a forum you wouldn't say face to face...if we all try and follow that premise we'll all get along just fine.

Now for the whippersnappers who are 32 claiming pre-teen behaviour well I'm Motherfudging 38 and going on 6 (one step away from running around with my arms out wing-stylee shouting NNNEEEEOOOOOWWWDAGADAGADAGADAGADAGADAGADAGADAGA!!! )

Enjoy the demo PS3 peeps

Thanks for your patience and best of luck with your future endeavours Anton

Go Team B.o.P. !!

Friday night beers are kickin in so smile Bitches!:grin:
________
Yamaha Ym2151

irrelevant 08-21-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by juz1 (Post 91899)
Now for the whippersnappers who are 32 claiming pre-teen behaviour well I'm Motherfudging 38 and going on 6 (one step away from running around with my arms out wing-stylee shouting NNNEEEEOOOOOWWWDAGADAGADAGADAGADAGADAGADAGADAGA!!! )


I do this. :shock:

By the way, whippersnappers? You're 38, not 88! LOL!

I totally agree with you. The only time I've met developers on a forum is with SCEA and MLB: The Show. Those guys are just as awesome over there for spending time doing things on a forum that aren't even necessary.

trk29 08-21-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 91929)
I do this. :shock:

By the way, whippersnappers? You're 38, not 88! LOL!

You are killing me with your replies:-P:-P

dandymountfarto 08-21-2009 04:40 PM

i dont think anyone is really questioning antons efforts to keep everyone informed or his dedication to BoP but rather the publishers continual efforts to fob this game off to be a half-arsed shoot-em up inspite of its name. if it wasnt il-2, it wouldn't really matter to anyone i dont think.

the news that you will have to purchase cockpits as part of a DLC pack is sad and frustrating for me as i dont have a lot of disposable income right now and i have found a lot of DLC to be a waste of money in all honesty. i only hope that whatever becomes available is worth shelling out for.

just out of interest anyone, why didnt ubisoft pick up this project as they did with the pc titles?

Ace Rimmer 08-21-2009 05:39 PM

Sad to see this trend of DLC being required to fully enjoy console games nowadays.

Too many fanboys here are willing to accept a game that is 75% finished and get all excited when a developer responds on a chat board. What happened to all of you who were saying there were going to be German cockpits in the game and all of us who were questioning this were just trying to cause trouble? Now you're saying it's no big deal and we should be grateful for what ever is released.

Like I've said before, I really tried hard to like this game but there are too many issues and this whole German cockpit issue is the "straw that broke the camel's back".

irrelevant 08-21-2009 05:47 PM

I wouldn't say they are fanboys. Frankly, I understand the rationale Anton presented in his explanation. Take your pick: 12 planes (all allied) in MP, or 40 (with final builds for axis planes to come). Knowing that, I can understand the push to include 40 planes, although incomplete, which contrasted the agreement with the publisher. The game could be delayed another 9 months to finish everything, or it can be offered up to the public now with DLC to come.

I'll take the game now and buy DLC as it comes out.

I don't feel the need to kiss Anton's backside, but I do feel the need to appreciate the effort he makes to be open, honest, and informative. All of this could have remained a big secret until the game was released. How would we have felt if we spent the money, only to find out what we now know?

You can always wait until after the game, title update, and DLC has been released. Listen to what people have to say, then make your decision.

I understand your frustration, but we can't have everything we want.

guiltyspark 08-21-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Rimmer (Post 92020)
Sad to see this trend of DLC being required to fully enjoy console games nowadays.

Too many fanboys here are willing to accept a game that is 75% finished and get all excited when a developer responds on a chat board. What happened to all of you who were saying there were going to be German cockpits in the game and all of us who were questioning this were just trying to cause trouble? Now you're saying it's no big deal and we should be grateful for what ever is released.

Like I've said before, I really tried hard to like this game but there are too many issues and this whole German cockpit issue is the "straw that broke the camel's back".

it isnt a big deal because they are being made as we speak :|

It could be much much worse.

Look at operation flashpoint dragon rising for example.

-No fixed wing aircraft.
-No leaning
-No Mission editor
-4v4 multiplayer
-Complete lack of realism


At least this game still has the flight model and simulation mode to hold it together while we wait for the DLC

This game is great , while dissapointed about the cockpits I know they are coming and 99.9% of the time a developer would never let the fans know about future DLC like that.

We are lucky and the game will be great.

Whiskey Red 08-21-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by irrelevant (Post 92022)
Take your pick: 12 planes (all allied) in MP, or 40 (with final builds for axis planes to come).

I guess I just don't understand why these are the only two options. We don't have to be satisfied with what they give us. That's what makes a market economy so great.
This isn't an example of your best friend doing you a favor and making a free game for you in his spare time. We are paying money for this product, and this is their job. We have a right to say what we think. I hope I have been posting mainly constructive criticism, but if not then I will try to make myself more clear.

My goal here is not to make friends with the developer, but to tell him what I honestly think. I look at this as an opportunity to push for improvement and higher expectations. If you don't agree with me, then fair enough.

I'll stick to my guns!

Agree or not, thanks for hearing me out!

SleepTrgt 08-21-2009 08:17 PM

I see your point, but in this case Anton told us what the deal was, its a rough world. They aint super heros who can create everything just by thought.
They have bosses aswell who tell them what to and not to do. They did their best they could, and still going on!

If you dont want it dont buy it. Would be sad though.
They have orders aswell by supervisors they just cant do what they like.
Even if they come up with great ideas, some big guy behind the scene will make the final dicisions.

And to me its great they have fought for their own ideas into the product.
And not to forget still are!


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