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Tree_UK 08-16-2009 09:29 PM

If you re-read my original post i was asking who was funding Daidalus, this question has brought about threats of bans (must have hit a nerve at someones HQ) and lots of teddies being thrown out of prams by the usual suspects. I have not stated anywhere that SOW is cancelled or will be, i just find it slightly strange that Il2 is going to go from strength to strength with Oleg's blessing when he is supposed to be close to finishing SOW, does that not seem like a conflict of interests to anyone? Also if Daidalus are truly doing all this work for no pay then surely it must of crossed thier minds that maybe this time next year everyone will be flying in SOW and their work will be long forgotton??

Now please discuss, without teddies and blankets being thrown.

Feuerfalke 08-16-2009 10:26 PM

Well, the problem is, that you never post a simple question. ;) You always have a way of stuffing your post so much with assumptions, personal opinions, offensive content and daring theories, that the tiny, little, puffy innocent question in the subordinate clause truly has a lot of spiky things to hide behind.


e.g.: if the Daidalus-Team is making 4.09 and is planning to provide further content, why is that a problem in regards to manpower and resources for SOW? Wouldn't it be more logical to assume the opposite? That giving something to be done by somebody else causes less work for the one who originally had to do it?
And to the question who's refunding them, why digg trenches? Maybe Oleg himself does, because he never ever said that IL2 will be abandoned. He just said that SOW is his teams priority. ;)

Tree_UK 08-16-2009 10:28 PM

Maybe you could show me the way by posting a simple answer? Please re-read my post i have never claimed that anything to do with Daidalus is a threat to SOW. If you'd have taken the time to read my post properly you would see there are no assumptions there is just a simple question.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 08-16-2009 10:45 PM

Isn't there any moderator here to clean this thread from the personel nonsense, this debat is driving?

If we (the DTeam) really shall participate in this room for longer, we wish a different kind of conversation. Thanks!

So as the question was, if we are founded in any way: NO! We do this in our spare time and despite the will of our wifes/GF's/RL-issues.
So what are our motives then? Hard to say... each member may have his own reason. But we all share the feeling, that the end of IL-2, as it seemed to be happen, wasn't simply acceptable. Point.

Snuff_Pidgeon 08-16-2009 10:57 PM

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_1SMV_Gitano 08-16-2009 11:05 PM

Hi Tree,

I gave a little contribution to 4.09 and and to aswers your question... I can say that nobody from the team will receive any piece of money for this.

By the way, the "non-sense" of making something for free, spendig hours research, modelling, programming, just for interest, dedication or call-it-the-way-you-like-it... well, it makes me smile. Following your way of thinking, I should not believe that you are wasting time reading the forum of a ten year old sim, someone is paying you to stay here and read every post... isn't it?

just jokin mate. I hope my aswer was exhaustive... ;)

EDIT: Caspar beated me... lol

Tree_UK 08-16-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 90547)
Isn't there any moderator here to clean this thread from the personel nonsense, this debat is driving?

If we (the DTeam) really shall participate in this room for longer, we wish a different kind of conversation. Thanks!

So as the question was, if we are founded in any way: NO! We do this in our spare time and despite the will of our wifes/GF's/RL-issues.
So what are our motives then? Hard to say... each member may have his own reason. But we all share the feeling, that the end of IL-2, as it seemed to be happen, wasn't simply acceptable. Point.

Thank you very much for answering my question Casper, so i take it that Daidalus are a collective of modders that have been authorized by Oleg?

Tree_UK 08-16-2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 90553)
Hi Tree,

I gave a little contribution to 4.09 and and to aswers your question... I can say that nobody from the team will receive any piece of money for this.

By the way, the "non-sense" of making something for free, spendig hours research, modelling, programming, just for interest, dedication or call-it-the-way-you-like-it... well, it makes me smile. Following your way of thinking, I should not believe that you are wasting time reading the forum of a ten year old sim, someone is paying you to stay here and read every post... isn't it?

just jokin mate. I hope my aswer was exhaustive... ;)

EDIT: Caspar beated me... lol

lol, nice post, i think its great you guys are doing what you do and you have now made it clear to me. Its good to see that the work the modders have done has finally been recognised by Oleg and its no longer a moot subject.

KG26_Alpha 08-16-2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazex (Post 90368)
Well, the complete overhaul has a name - SoW ;) I don't think that Daidalus will do more than wrapping up 4.09 and then put some additional lipstick on the stiff ;) If they do just that, I will be content...

Problem is how many years before the Russian front comes to SOW ? :)

Surely some reworking to IL2 1946 will enpower 1c Team & D Team as far as their customer base goes, they will see its supported extremely well and has a long future rather than some of the one hit wonder sims of late, ongoing support for IL2 1946 should secure a large customer base for SoW also.



@ D Team

Thanks for taking time to look over the thread.

What limitations are there on you to "tidy up" IL2 1946, I know you said 1c didn't provide you any "tools" to finish v409m (assuming you are using Qtims tools) is this possibly due to Oleg not wanting you to adjust any FM or DM in v409m or is there future hope for corrections to aircraft FM & DM even ballistics.

Thxz

_1SMV_Gitano 08-17-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 90558)
lol, nice post, i think its great you guys are doing what you do and you have now made it clear to me. Its good to see that the work the modders have done has finally been recognised by Oleg and its no longer a moot subject.

Sorry but your conclusions are wrong. The fact tha few DT members came from the modding community doesn't necessarily means that Oleg now approves modding.


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