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Blaf 02-22-2013 11:48 AM

By the way, SVK community is now consolidating money for He-177 cockpit and gunner seats...
http://www.panzerkampfwagen.cz/forum...393&rowstart=0

gaunt1 02-22-2013 02:43 PM

Awesome... :)
If google translated it properly, it looks like they need references too... I hope the authors read these forums, I can provide links for the books that may be useful. Most are A-0 and A-1 versions, but fortunately there are two for A-3. Fortunately, the last book has lots of useful images about the gunner seats.

He 177 A-0 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 12, Bewaffnung, Allgemein:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124594451/...-Dezember-1941

He 177 A-0 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 9A, Heft 5 Enteisungsanlage:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124593173/...September-1941

He 177 A-0 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 12B, Abwurfwaffenanlage:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124700312/...-November-1941

He 177 A-1 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 12A Schusswaffenanlage:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/100868624/...lage-mit-FA-3A

He 177 A-1 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 12G Rüstsatze:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124702483/...atze-Juni-1943

He 177 A-3 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 9A Allgemeine ausrüstung:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124704840/...September-1943

He 177 A-3 Flugzeug-handbuch Teil 12A Schusswaffenanlage:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/124706304/...September-1943

Fergal69 02-22-2013 04:06 PM

One thing I like about 1946 is that some of the unusually aircraft are modelled. Look at the German jet like ME262 & variants, HS129, ME109Z, etc.

I would like more German bombers, but I would like to see an official release of the BV141.

Pursuivant 02-22-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fergal69 (Post 498120)
I would like more German bombers, but I would like to see an official release of the BV141.

I'd be very interested in flying a well-done model of the Bv-141 in the game.

But, will the IL2 game engine accurately model the performance of an asymmetrical plane?

hafu1939 02-25-2013 08:33 PM

I’d be glad to see some German trainers in Il 2 in the future, e.g. Bücker Bü 181 (actually existing as a mod), Arado Ar 96B or Siebel Si 204D(E).
Well, now back to the topic of this thread: it isn’t much important, how anybody of us perceives priorities or possibilities – Do 17 yes or no or anything like this. These are questions of personal taste and opinion.
We’ll have a good chance to fly He 177 in approximately 2 years, if the effort of the SVK community is successful. In the same time we can try to found a project of cockpit for the Do 217K, perhaps in the same or similar way as the SVK does.
From my point of view this is the most useful course of our next thinking.

Pursuivant 02-26-2013 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hafu1939 (Post 498413)
I’d be glad to see some German trainers in Il 2 in the future, e.g. Bücker Bü 181 (actually existing as a mod), Arado Ar 96B or Siebel Si 204D(E).

Another idea is to have planes which nobody sane would consider flying in combat modeled as static objects. If you look at Western Allied gun camera films of strafing runs, you see a lot of hapless Luftwaffe training, liaison and transport types in the gun sights. Likewise, if you look at pictures of shot up Soviet airfields, you see a number of similar aircraft.

Static aircraft would be easy to model, would be a great way to add eye candy/targets to missions, and could possibly eventually be upgraded to actual flying (or flyable) models if there is interest.

Blaf 02-26-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaf (Post 498094)
By the way, SVK community is now consolidating money for He-177 cockpit and gunner seats...
http://www.panzerkampfwagen.cz/forum...393&rowstart=0

And here is complete price list... quite more than i expected :shock:
http://www.panzerkampfwagen.cz/forum...20#post_199784

gaunt1 02-26-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaf (Post 498446)
And here is complete price list... quite more than i expected :shock:
http://www.panzerkampfwagen.cz/forum...20#post_199784

Why dont they look for an another modeler? That guy is rather greedy. Those prices are insane!

Compare it with this model of a russian radar truck:
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/...d-model/571529

More than 270.000 polygons, looks incredibly detailed and only 160 USD!

Anyway, looks like they still need references. Can anyone link this page to them? The books above contain everything they need for gunner cockpits.

JtD 02-26-2013 11:29 AM

I'm pretty sure if the modeller can sell the cockpits 10, 20 or even 50 times, he'll lower his prices accordingly.

SPAD-1949 02-26-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaunt1 (Post 498448)
Why dont they look for an another modeler? That guy is rather greedy. Those prices are insane!

Compare it with this model of a russian radar truck:
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/...d-model/571529

More than 270.000 polygons, looks incredibly detailed and only 160 USD!

Anyway, looks like they still need references. Can anyone link this page to them? The books above contain everything they need for gunner cockpits.

Thats not the fault oft the first guy.
10 or 20 hours of work are gone easily


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