Well, If I were in a position to develop a game - and let's not forget, developing a game is a business - I would be looking at this genre as a bloody minefield.

Let's imagine we have X million pounds to invest, requiring a return of Y million.

What do people play? How can I make X investment make Y return?

Let's say I quite like the flight sim genre. I ask my financial expert to garner some figures, and he comes back to tell me that at any one time, there are up to 200 people world-wide playing Cliffs of Dover online.

Oh, I say. What about other sorts of games?

Well, today's peak figures on Steam say that 130,000 people were playing DoTA, 75,000 were playing Team Fortress 2, and 50,000 were playing Borderlands 2. At once. Peak figures.

Ok. And 200 were playing Cliffs, is that right?

Well, we think so. The figures don't actually go that low.

Ok. I think I'll take my x Million of investment and maybe not put it into a WW2 flight sim.

There's the hard facts, you twats. You are in a minority that is perfectly willing to turn anyone interested away from your hobby if it gains you momentary e-points.

So true :(

Personally I support all the flight sims.

in the old times it was nancy boy now its whinner

I PREFER TO LOVE WITHOUT BEING LOVED THA/T/ NOT LOVE AT ALL.

It's 'than'.

And you totally screwed up the quote anyway. Should read:

'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

I'm a future customer and I rely on forum-posts and reviews by people who actually fly this sim to decide whether I'll play it or not (if I get my own business on track in the first place). I'm in the positive camp so I'm happy to read ElAurens' initial post.

Kind of hard to read the entire thread though because of all the flaming wars going on as usually...

The only weird personal dependency in here is the rather disturbing dependency of some to blabber on and on and on about how bad this sim is and how deranged people must be to like it. Those of us who enjoy CoD, warts and all, have a positive reason to be here and discuss the sim and talk about the latest AMAZING on-line battle we've flown in on ATAG. The others... - Well maybe they've run out of flies they can pull the wings off...

I don't honestly think that it that at all Frey. It's the way the supporters seem unable to believe that anyone couldn't like it. That anyone couldn't see the great potential. That anyone couldn't see that it's great online. That anyone couldn't admit that it's the greatest WWII sim ever in the history of the universe. That anyone could admit that it's less than perfect in it's representation of the aircraft of both sides. Is it overdone? Of course it is. But, it's overdone ON BOTH SIDES.

Too true to even be funny :mad:

Was it supposed to be funny?

Completely true though yet I'm not expecting anyone to give a ****! :confused:

Why?....the only ones that don't give a ****! are the minority being refered to, the rest of us are obviously concerned which is why we speak out against those idiots.