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bongodriver 06-08-2012 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter (Post 433297)
Country United Kingdom
ICAO ID EGKB
Time UTC 0(+1DT)
Latitude 51.330833 - 51° 19' 51.00" N
Longitude 0.032500 - 000° 01' 57.00" E
Elevation 598 feet/182 meters
Type Civil
Magnetic Variation 002° W (01/06)
Operating Agency CIVIL GOVERNMENT, (LANDING FEES AND DIPLOMATIC CLEARANCE MAY BE REQUIRED)
Operating Hours SEE REMARKS FOR OPERATING HOURS OR COMMUNICATIONS FOR POSSIBLE HOURS
International Clearance Status Airport of Entry
Daylight Saving Time Last Sunday in March to last Sunday in October

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=UK47672

598 feet is out of date data and is from a 2006 deffinition, check the link I provided from the UK official aeronautical publication, even the airports own site is using the out of date for some odd reason.

http://www.bigginhillairport.com/wp-...unway-plan.pdf

Crumpp 06-09-2012 03:25 AM

Lmao!!!

:P

klem 06-09-2012 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 433283)
Sorry Crumpp but this is nonsense and if you are a commercial pilot you'd know it, an airfields official elevation is fixed and defined according to an average sea level in 'official' aeronautical publications not some obscure hobby website, MDA's and DA's are based on threshold elevation and are defined to individual feet, you 'do not' have variable MDA's or DA's according to Wx changes, next time a real pilot lets you look at a Jeppessen approach plate you will see what I mean, having flown a Learjet45 in and out of Biggin Hill on countless occasions due to the company I worked for being based there I believe I can make comment.

BTW EGKB's official elevation is 599 feet as defined in the UK AIP and official charts

linky..... http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadba...2012-05-31.pdf

Just curious....


I couldn't get to that link, it gave me 404 (page not found)

I did find this though:
http://www.bigginhillairport.com/wp-...unway-plan.pdf

EDIT: I just saw your last bongodriver but out of curiosity.....

Where do the following fit into this discussion concerning 'the correct' Altimeter setting:-
Apron 600 feet
Height in feet above AD ( 68 )
AMSL 666 feet
Threshold elevations 517 (21), 586 (03, 11) and 598 (29)

IvanK 06-09-2012 07:11 AM

Airfield elevations are NOT affected by Temp and pressure. As Bongodriver states they are fixed and come from surveyed state data ... every Professional aviator knows this !

bongodriver 06-09-2012 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crumpp (Post 433337)
Lmao!!!

:P

Oh boy that's desperate, laught it up Walt.

ever wondered why elevations are given as (AMSL) above mean sea level, and not above variable hourly datum

bongodriver 06-09-2012 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klem (Post 433356)
Just curious....


I couldn't get to that link, it gave me 404 (page not found)

I did find this though:
http://www.bigginhillairport.com/wp-...unway-plan.pdf

EDIT: I just saw your last bongodriver but out of curiosity.....

Where do the following fit into this discussion concerning 'the correct' Altimeter setting:-
Apron 600 feet
Height in feet above AD ( 68 )
AMSL 666 feet
Threshold elevations 517 (21), 586 (03, 11) and 598 (29)

setting:-
Apron 600 feet..........self explanatoryand is basically the datum for setting the altimeter.

Height in feet above AD ( 68 )
AMSL 666 feet".............................these 2 figures are actually just a sort of legend simply explaining that the elevations are above mean sea level and the bracketed figures are heights above aerodrome level, the figures in this case are representative and 666' and (68 )appear on every airport diagram.

Threshold elevations 517 (21), 586 (03, 11) and 598 (29).......these figures are the Thresholds and you don't need to set anything., the bracketed figures in this case are the runways, notice wry 03 and 11 share height then look at the airfield diagram you will see its because they are next to each other.

Osprey 06-09-2012 09:11 AM

Let me get this straight. Crumpp is now disagreeing with a professional jet pilot who has used the actual airfield multiple times? How many times have you landed a jet at Biggin Hill Crumpp?

http://blog.christlutheranchurch.mb....10/06/mr-t.jpg
.......you know what he says.....

bongodriver 06-09-2012 09:18 AM

In fairness I'm an unemployed professional jet pilot currently but yeah in essence Osprey has asked an interesting question., Mr Crumpp has been expecting alot of trust from people with claims of being ex special forces and a professional pilot and it seems we have him cornered on one of those claims.

Kurfürst 06-09-2012 09:33 AM

Interesting discussion wheter some obscure airfield in England is 598, 599 or 600 feet above the ground. That's about half a meter.

Should be another 150 pager. Can't wait to see who wins. :D :D

bongodriver 06-09-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurfürst (Post 433398)
Interesting discussion wheter some obscure airfield in England is 598, 599 or 600 feet above the ground. That's about half a meter.

Should be another 150 pager. Can't wait to see who wins. :D :D


Simple solution to that is to see which one of us is lying, I'm willing to provide plenty of evidence I'm not lying.........Crumpp your call.


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