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mayshine 04-27-2012 04:46 PM

D team member, and who do not want to be the joker

Please check this like for ME262 compare documentation

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...erman-jets.pdf


and do the test in the Il2 4.11

here is the test in IL2 4.11 for the diving

starting altitude 5000m, throttle 100, stating speed 300km/h,
testing scope : 300 to 700 km/h

the result is below

Bf109G6as: 12s

Me262:11.7s


Isnt it showing something ridiculous?

mayshine 04-27-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC99 (Post 415194)
TAIC is "Technical Air Intelligence Center".It was established Washington, D.C. (Anacostia) in 1944, as a joint Army-Navy organization with British participation. To this center was assigned the responsibility of collection, evaluation, and dissemination of all technical intelligence on the Japanese Air Forces.

That's why they tested P-47 and Zero (lot of other planes as well) and 100 yards(~100m ) was the difference between real planes in test. If you think that difference should be bigger than maybe you have to adjust your expectations to match the reality.

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please show your link of the documentation or so

Is it a memior or serious testing documentation?

I have docs showing the diving difference between different aircrafts

mayshine 04-27-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JtD (Post 415478)
From the top of my head, 30 degrees.



in game test we clearly found that the almost verticle diving will cost only

12 seconds from 300km to 700km

what will take "30 seconds to gain 100 yard"

what kind of steep dive will take 30 seconds???

mayshine 04-27-2012 05:14 PM

D team member and Non jokers

the pic below will talk

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/wade-dive.jpg

http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/wade-data.jpg

AndyJWest 04-27-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

the pic below will talk
Not withut (a) telling us where the initial document is from, and (b) telling us what it is supposed to represent.

And what the heck has the second image got to do with dive acceleration rates?

Either find some data from actual tests on real aircraft that proves the Technical Air Intelligence Center results are wrong, or drop the issue. So far, all we have had is speculation and waffle from you.

mayshine 04-27-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 415936)
Not withut (a) telling us where the initial document is from, and (b) telling us what it is supposed to represent.

And what the heck has the second image got to do with dive acceleration rates?

Either find some data from actual tests on real aircraft that proves the Technical Air Intelligence Center results are wrong, or drop the issue. So far, all we have had is speculation and waffle from you.

The second image is showing the details of the planes only, the first is showing the diving diffrerence, and obviously it is not dive speed limit

you want to improve the Il2 or u want to win some dispute?

I have other souce showing the difference,

you can apply the same question to all source i provide coz it is internet.

if you do want to win a dispute instead of reaserching ,

let me tell you

you WIN!!!


I propose these only because I LOVE IL2


Thats all

AndyJWest 04-27-2012 05:37 PM

Go away, do the research. Provide the evidence, then bring it here. Real evidence. With actual data describing the results from properly defined tests. Not pictures that tell us nothing at all.

Or f*** off and troll somewhere else.

SaQSoN 04-27-2012 05:41 PM

Here's one more real life disappointment for you:
Quote:

Originally Posted by mayshine (Post 415912)
I am disapointing with your "senior member" title

Who cares?

mayshine 04-27-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 415940)
Go away, do the research. Provide the evidence, then bring it here. Real evidence. With actual data describing the results from properly defined tests. Not pictures that tell us nothing at all.

Or f*** off and troll somewhere else.


Really good, the one who do the reaserch and help to improve

deserves f*** off somwhere

really well, this is the way you treat serious people

Really nice

I found the potential problem, and come to 1c, to D team, to see some
help i can provide or some improvement can be made

I even spend time to serch the net and do the test myself.

now, Instead of being listened and think again and double check

I deserve f*** off

Really nice,

what a real simer

mayshine 04-27-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaQSoN (Post 415942)
Here's one more real life disappointment for you:

Who cares?


no problem you dont respect yourself, no one else will


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