Ribbs67

Moderating is a volunteer job. We get email notification of reported postings, which is the best way to get our attention.

Most of the time we don't have time to "relate" with members personally.

When members consistently maintain a sensible demeanor and do not cause trouble they are often overlooked... as you reminded me of a helpful poster.

When you become a moderator it is like becoming a linesman for a soccer/football match. You miss the match, because you have to watch and flag infractions.

Moderators generally do not have time to participate in forums discussions...or "watch the match"

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Since a lot of rubbish here, it is difficult to read the important infos http://www.pumaszallas.hu/forum/imag...es/tok-tok.gif. I'm doing it to open Luthier and BlackSix members-page (statistics - find all post), I look there, what they said (not only announcements), so I read the important things, the rest of the forum only if I have time :rolleyes:

nearmiss, I'm a bit confused. Perhaps I didn't explain myself properly.
I am not criticising the moderators or trying to tell them how to do their job. I was asking for help in what are, to me at least, important communications from 1C/BlackSix/Luthier etc.. I don't mean the run of the mill Threads.

Please let me explain that I don't think it's making accusations to say that some threads get buried under a lot of rubbish or that some posters seem to have a self-indulgent agenda. If I have developed the view that some posts are vitriol or some posters are deliberately provocative its because thats how they seem to me but none of my posts in this thread accuse any individual, its a general observation. Many moderators agree the problem exists. I don't care about that as long as it doesn't bury the company's useful information. That's what this request is about.

Spending time somewhere else and only dropping back every now and then is precisely what I don't want to do for two reasons. One, I want to keep as up to date as possible and two, if I don't visit the forums regularly how am I ever going to find the useful information under the pile of rubbish that accumulates on top of it?

You say I can report posts but what happens if I report 225 posts as 'Off Topic' or 'offensive' or 'obstructive' to me because thay prevent me finding Blacksix's answers withput spending two hours trawling through them all?

Perhaps one answer is to ignore anything past page 3 (I cant say "after 3 days" because in just 2 days there are already 330+ posts to get through).

Anyway, if the moderator's position (I don't know how you arrive at a decision) is that the request can't be granted, there's nothing I can do about it but I have to say the important threads are being made useless by the amount of rubbish that piles onto them.

Just to be clear, are the moderators saying the request can't be granted?

I dont see in this thread any critic to the moderator's job, specially I re read klem's and I don't think that is the intention.

The thread's title says it all. Is a request, not a critic. I dont know if there are enough users who share in more or less degree the request of the OP, I even don't know if my own proposal somewhere here is a valid one ( to lock the official updates) because if I think of it in a cold manner, I could get the same effect moderating myself to read only the first post, or using the filters to read only BS or Luthier's post.

What I feel is that is a fact that some users are really concerned about the way that the official updates is cluttered with posts that fall in one of the following categories: irrespectful or insulting to the artist, offtopic, or arguing with other users about x and effectively derailing the thread.... To name the most important ones that come to my head.

Not all opinions are acceptable in a official thread, which is one of the few places where we interact with the developers, if not the only, it is like if I am invited to an public presentation of any kind, lets say a book, and I start to critic the organization, the food, the flowers, and I even express loud out so every one, including the host, that I feel cheated having bought the book and that some other known writer does it 100 times better, and you should learnt of him. Sorry but this would be an opinion, but not an acceptable one. I have some other places to express that opinion, right?. But dont confuse freedom of speech with lack of common sense.


Now to put some examples, what I like to find in an official thread is an interaction with the OP, like

Expressing gratefulness to the developer.
Asking the developer (Asking how many poligons has the model X to the developer. Asking if that or that model of the plane will be simulates....)
Sharing important info with the developer.....

Yes all share in common the developer, because imo, this is the official thread where we intereact directly with them.

And what opinions I dont like to see in the officials thread, independently if their correctness and how much right we have to express our feelings:

Expressing how awful is the art or the artist or their methods and how much help they need. ( can be done elsewhere)
Expressing frustation for having wasted xxx bucks
Arguing with other users to win a particular contest of who's the better of both (forum dogfights that is)
Yelling that I am leaving to play X that is better.

Is that ones that I for one request to be considered by the mods to be moderated.

But as I said atthe begining I dont know if there are too many sharing this to even be discussed by the mods, anyway whatever it happens the world will continue turning.

I think thisis my longest post lol. Good sunday to all.