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I dont think your goulish mate, I served in Iraq for 3 tours while i was in the forces, and found that it opened a side in myself, in a way that mortal danger to yourself or others does hold a lure that is hard to turn away from even when it makes you sicken inside.

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Originally Posted by ckolonko (Post 307792)

Its true. In the vintage aircraft world an aircraft may contain very few original parts of the aircraft and still be considered an original warbird. An interesting read is the Haynes Spitfire manual. It shows how Spitfires are restored and also provides information regarding what is considered an original warbird and what is seen as a 'New' Aircraft.

Ok which parts u want to reuse?

This thing fell down from what, 300yards, angle was >30°
Frame:gone
Wings: dito
Tail: dito
Engine: if your lucky the block made it

You can't even use the sheet aluminium.

so you can use a few parts(<5%?) in a brand new plane.
Part it and sell the parts - why go through a restoration?
There are more than 150 P51 in flying condition.

For me it was one of the more famous ones flying, when ever I saw anything pic, video or discussion around a P-51 I always think of BBD :(

isn't there a static BBD in the duxford USAAF museum?

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Originally Posted by BigPickle (Post 307777)

Duxford has a terrible cross wind, and in years gone by this has been blamed. The state of the runway is dreadful, it is littered with FOD all over from the damage to it which is never or rarely repaired.

whoa whoa whoa, there's no terrible crosswind in Duxford man, who said that? Besides, you can't always blame crosswind for a landing accident, it's normally cos people venture out when they shouldn't.

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It is a great shame as Flying Legends is the only place to see all these beautiful aircraft at once, but thats part of the problem, too many aircraft in the air and on the ground at once without extra vigilant co-ordination.

There is something deeply wrong with the display's setup and co-ordination, 4 deaths and countless accidents resulting in the loss of some very rare aircraft including the Blenhiem, P38, Air Cobra, Hurricane and Spitfire just to name the major ones in the last 15 years shows that actions need to be taken.
I think their future looks very bleek right now and as sad as i am to say it quite rightly so.

Completely agree on this one.

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Crowd managment is a shambles, you can actually walk around to the back side of the field to watch the display! If ever a plane came down there, there would be major fatalities.
Last year with the 16 spitfires, my life ! It was a stunning sight but take off was like wacky racers, it looked totally un organized. Scary stuff.
Also they push the boundaries in how close they fly to the crowd for sure.

well some of the nearby fields are privately held, and you can't forbid people to go there if the land owner is ok with it unfortunately.

But yeah, they're pushing the boundaries and there are two or three usual suspects that fly well outside safety measures..

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 307843)

isn't there a static BBD in the duxford USAAF museum?

yeah but it's a patch up/frankenstein thingie.

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 307832)

it's not a matter of what you can salvage, it's a matter of bureaucracy/paperwork.. you can't save much from there, but enough to reuse the same reg. Give it a 4 years time and you might see her back in the air, better than before..

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Originally Posted by Mysticpuma (Post 307812)

Sadly you couldn't be more wrong. I actually work as a Professional Photographer

you're not one of those "stepladder and/or fence" folks are you? ;)

A perfect video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmsJW...layer_embedded

BTW, where was the Skyrider pilot looking at? He had the whole bl***y sky for him to fly through but that tiny room occupied by the P-51 itself! Sorry, but I feel so terribly ungry .....

Engadin