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Sapper 10-09-2015 09:10 PM

I would like to see Gibbage's Catalina finished. I believe TD has the files.

Pursuivant 10-10-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shelby (Post 711147)
more german planes like bf110 me210 me410 ju188 and the yt2's he111

There are a number of Bf-110 variants that were produced in numbers but which aren't in the game. It might be possible to include some of them with just FM or DM tweaks. And, of course, it would be nice to have the Bf-110C-4 and Bf-110C-4/B flyable.

For Bf-110s which make most sense to add to the game, I'd choose the Bf-110C-7, the Bf-110E-1, the Bf-110D-2, and the Bf-110F-2. Of the lot, the Bf-110C-7 is probably the easiest since it probably had a cockpit identical to the C-4 or C-4/B variants which are already in the game.

The Bf-110G-4 is "in the works."

The Me-210 is already in the game, but could be made flyable. Both major variants are already modeled.

The Me-410 and Ju-188 would be new projects.

Pursuivant 10-10-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighterace (Post 711148)
What about some early P-38 versions???

I'd just like to see the existing P-38s reworked with a less atrocious damage model and non-mirrored skins.

For new variants, it wouldn't be that hard to add the P-38H. The only major change would be the appearance of the engine nacelles. Minor changes would be reworking the appearance of the armor glass, and slight reskinning to show the intercoolers in the wing leading edge. DM would need to be altered to reflect the new engines and cooling system arrangement. The cockpit layout is identical to existing P-38J.

Models prior to the P-38H had slightly different engine controls, and in some cases different flap controls, so their cockpits were a bit different. That would require extra work if they were to be flyable.

But, as AI aircraft, once you've got the earlier engine nacelle and canopy designed, only FM/DM work would be needed to add the whole run of early to mid-war P-38s from the P-38E to the P-38H.

The P-38D would require a different reworking of the engine area, and since it was used in very limited numbers its probably not worth it.

iMattheush 10-10-2015 12:15 PM

Hey, it would be incredibly easy to make Bf 110C-1 (i think most popular Bf 110 in 1939 Defensive War in Poland), so please add this plane. Only differences is worse crew armor (C-4 is almost undestroyable by P.11c's 7.92mm machine guns), slightly worse cannons (MG FF instead of MG FF/M) and older FuG III radio. It's important for me, because "Polenfeldzug" is one of most unknown and forgotten periods of WWII. Please think about it, because it would take a little time to add this plane... This is priority for me, after that maybe Bf 110B-1/B-2/B-3, still popular up to 1940...

gaunt1 10-10-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursuivant (Post 711155)
The Me-210 is already in the game, but could be made flyable. Both major variants are already modeled.

Not really. Me-210A isnt modeled. But I guess nobody would want to fly that thing. One of the worst planes of the war. :)

gaunt1 10-10-2015 02:46 PM

And also, the Ju-88 A14. I think its incredibly easy to make.

Differences compared to A4:

No horizontal bombsight, MG-FF installed in its place (like Ju-88A4/Torp)
Balloon cutters, integral to wings (not visible on model)
Slightly more armor

dimlee 10-10-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gaunt1 (Post 711159)
Not really. Me-210A isnt modeled. But I guess nobody would want to fly that thing. One of the worst planes of the war. :)

I'd be happy to fly subject she is from Hungarian production batch.
:cool:

gaunt1 10-10-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dimlee (Post 711161)
I'd be happy to fly subject she is from Hungarian production batch.
:cool:

I meant the original German 210A, which was terrible. Hungarian, modified 210C wasnt bad at all.

Pursuivant 10-11-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by iMattheush (Post 711158)
Hey, it would be incredibly easy to make Bf 110C-1

You could also include the Bf-110C-3 as a loadout option for the C-1, since the only difference between the C-1 and the C-3 was replacing the MG FF with the MG FF/M. That would allow for all the Bf-110C options that are important for the game.

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Originally Posted by iMattheush (Post 711158)
because "Polenfeldzug" is one of most unknown and forgotten periods of WWII.

The Invasion of Poland would be an interesting area for IL2 to explore, since the campaign was literally a proving ground for both the German and Soviet air forces, and since maps of Poland can also be used for the battles of 1944-45.

The only problem is that it would require modeling a whole bunch of aircraft and ground equipment that weren't used anyplace else.

Pursuivant 10-11-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gaunt1 (Post 711162)
I meant the original German 210A, which was terrible. Hungarian, modified 210C wasnt bad at all.

A flyable Hungarian Me-210 would also open up some interesting new campaign possibilities.


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