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julian265 04-12-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123 (Post 261506)
... the WC crowd changed the rules to knobble 110s flying together as teams.

What rules were changed to do that?

123-Wulf-123 04-12-2011 11:14 PM

The rule that didn't allow us to fly it.

Because we were rolling up the missions in no time flat.

And the bloody Spitfairies whined because we kept blasting them out of the sky becuase the clownasses kept attacking 110s and flying in front of them........:evil:

The rule that when they brought it in meant many WC veterans left WC..... THAT RULE.

Ask Oktoberfest.

123-Wulf-123 04-12-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 261572)
Actually what we are seeing from your comments is a 'gamer' congratulating himself on getting an aircraft with an unrealistic advantage, and then whining when the true facts are presented.

For those of us who prefer to think CLIFFS OF DOVER is what was promised, ie. a "SIMULATION", pointing out instances where an aircraft has an ahistorical advantage is simply good feedback.


Untwist yer knickers and get a life lol :-P:-P:-P

lbuchele 04-12-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc_uk (Post 261495)
You proberly had everything set on easy:rolleyes:
And you dont eat spits for lunch, you might for breakfast, but not lunch:evil:
:)

I don't fly on easy,but I'm not using CEM,because a just don't have the time enough to learn it,yet...:(

Lololopoulos 04-13-2011 02:46 AM

now that i'm reading this post i can't wait to play this game. I need april 26 to come faster.

Frequent_Flyer 04-13-2011 03:50 AM

The majority of the Luftwaffe losses in WW II in both men and equipment were at the hands of the Western Allies. No matter the tactics or aircraft employeed by the Luftwaffe the losses became unsustainable and ultimately had no impact on the wars final outcome. In addition, the 109 and the Spitfire were both poor performers, both carried a thimbleful of fuel at could not land a knock out punch to it's advesary when the opportunity presented itself.
The squadron with the most victories for the RAF, in the battle of Britian, was the Polish pilots of 303,- 126 confirmed. They only were allowed to participate in the secnd half of the battle. The majority of these victories were scored in Hurricanes. In fact I beleive the majority of the total number of RAF victories in BOB were scored in the lowly Hurricane.
Supporting the argument , the pilot has much more of an impact on an egagement than the aircraft.

lbuchele 04-13-2011 03:55 AM

Yes,but the Hurricane was responsible for 60% or more the total number of english fighters too...

addman 04-13-2011 03:56 AM

Overmodeled LOL! Try some turn n' burn in it and then accelerate away, slow as a snail, just like all the accounts. It turns pretty good, bad roll rate, good speed, horrible acceleration and I love it!

lbuchele 04-13-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 261435)
This doesn't sound good. As others have said, it wasn't good enough as a fighter, and that's not because it had to fly slowly next to the bombers, it just wasn't as good as the Spit or Hurricane.

And the Hurricane, a pig? Sounds like you've been playing too much IL2 without reading any facts.

You can't,naturally,to fight in equal terms neither with the Spit or the Hurricane in a turn fight.
Not even dream about it.You have to maintain your speed at all costs and use cannons and MG fire in snapshots or better yet if you are a better deflection shooter than me...
Something I have noticed is that sometimes you CAN win a turn fight with a particular Spit.
It's like it had a real bad pilot inside, I don't know if is just a feeling that I had or somebody already experienced this ingame?

adonys 04-13-2011 04:28 AM

You guys throwing numbers against Luftwaffe and stating how badly were the brits outnumbered during BoB and how heroically were they doing forget your facts:
- actually, you can't be so stupid to count bombers in that comparison, I assume it was a mistake from your part
- Luftwaffe fighters had less than 10 (actually around 5) combat minutes over Britain due to the lack of fuel tanks (which actually counted as the major reason for the BoB's outcome)
- each bailing out Luftwaffe pilot was a loss (PoW), compared with the brit pilots who could fly the next day again
- brits fighters acting as free fighters, while german one were mostly forced to fly as escrots
- the local superiority achieved by the brits fighters due to the use of radar and Center Command operational management

You actually also forget that the brits were those starting the civil targets bombing campaign (the night raid on Berlin), which outraged Hitler who changed the strategical objectives of the BoB campaign in order to respond to the british outrageous behavior.

You also forget that there were the exact words of the british command leaders saying that the german campaign would have continued with the initial strategical targets, they would have been forced to admit defeat in less than 2 weeks, as they actually were right on the edge.

It's quite strange to see how history is modeled by the victors even in our media revolution times, and how easily people are forgetting the real facts of what happened right under their very eyes.


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