Totally offtopic, but I'm with you on M&B Heliocon, what a gem of a game that is...found if when it was version 0.601 or something and only £6, and been totally hooked since. To be fair, though, Taleworlds are no better than Maddox Games for releasing previews...to say that they released a lot of information prior to the release of for example Warband is a bit of an exaggeration, the only reason we got a lot of info is because there was an open-ish beta with no NDA.

Well watching the video........leaves me wondering when we'll see actual CoD footage?

What I saw was a bunch of re-hashed previous released footage, the fire and smoke is no-better than HolyGrail's Plutonium effects for IL2 and looks very similar to Battle of Britain Wings of Valor.

At this late stage, why has the tracer/gunfire got no smoke effects either around the tracer, or behind the wing?

So-far all I have seen in any video is clouds from IL2, slightly better water, HDR lighting (remember RoF added that to a modified IL2 engine), very little extra detail at-all.

To impress me I want to see rain modelling, dramatic weather with impressive clouds/storm-fronts, the sea with a lot of water rolling rather than just flat, the aircraft damage from inside the cockpit view......just something that excites me and makes me feel like this is an evolution up from IL2.

Roll on Friday (crosses fingers for an 'official' video) without the usual 'Place Holder graphics' disclaimer.

Cheers, MP

Couldn't agree more, but for some reason they are reluctant to show us this game before we buy it. :( We wont see video this friday.

Doom and Gloom in the Banana Forums?

Surely not!!

You know if/when they do release a video you'll have the same nob'eads saying they've used special FPS fraps video to fool you into buying it.
They will complain about the location its being filmed around and it doesnt look like the England they know.

The colours of the fields wont look 'English' enough, the pilots will look too small, the oxygen masks wont be on, the waterways will be too big for streams in England but too small for rivers in Germany, the roads will be a meter or so too wide for 1940 designs, the vehicle driver animations will not jump out of their wagon and try to take pot shots at you as you strafe them, your shiny new PC may not be able to run everything at high resolutions over London in the rain without fps loss and the pilots goggles may not be the right version for the time period.

And of course fireflyguy will be utterly unimpressed!!

Like we need more grown mans tears tbh!

When it was announced 'many years ago' and I spoke with Oleg there was talk of most of the Graphics being place-holders. The Atmospheric effects were heavily mentioned, all of it being accurately generated, clouds would be huge, there was the possibility of flying through cloud layers.

Watch this video and imagine flying in that environment with your WW2 aircraft.

Watch especially as 22 seconds as the aircraft plunges through a cloud layer and comes out the other side......that is what I want! I want to believe I am in the air. I want an environment effect that says...you are in the clouds! Check out 50-seconds and look at that cloud layer as the aircraft skims over it! Another example of what the sky needs to be like. Not fluffy cotton balls!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYUUwlyAHf0

This is an amazing video showing what clouds look like.

We all know what clouds look like. They are an integral part of the sky we fly in. They were used to evade and surprise the enemy. They need to be effective and not fluffy balls of cotton.

Can we please see something that shows us environmental effects? Rain, Snow, Cumulus, Cumuli Nimbus......just something rather than 'place holder' again!

Weather was a constant problem in England....it rains....a lot! I live here. Today is Grey, yesterday was Grey.....but above the clouds....it is Sunny. Show us something that says....CoD has Weather!

I just want to believe that so many years in development has created the 'New' IL2 and not an expansion pack!

I am not asking anyone to be on my side, I just wish to share my Opinion and back it up with video that shows what clouds look like at altitude when they exist!

Cheers, MP

I too would like to see the dynamic weather system, but showing it when its not going to be playable in the first release will cause much whining.

Although, hopefully, it would be able to quiet the concerns of the more informed forums members, so there would be a certain trade-off. ;)

Just around the corner from you in Birmingham MysticPuma, grey is right, grey and cold :(

Your video link doesnt seem to be working (for me atleast its blank).

But totally agree with your comments.

We have already seen various gameplay videos showing smoke trails,even spiral ones.Obviously none of the trailers show actual stuff, so the best bet is to wait? and see.Seems impossible for most of the guys here.

lol of course not, people just wanna know what we are going to be buying. Makes sense especially if the money to be spent is a reasonable amount for you.