Just tested it with a BI0836X, a A1302KUA-T and two magnets: Works beautifully from 0 to 100% and 50% when the magnets are both out of reach.
Not really :(: I want to keep Force Feedback, so stick x and y must be fed via Logitech electronics... Which brings me to another issue concerning the combination of Il-2, G940 and (possibly several) BU0836... I'll soon open another thread because I need advice, help, ideas here...

I agree. That must be it. The Reversal Bug (on stick y and x) prevented any serious formation flying and aiming. That is now fixed by Logitech. The Reversal Bug in the Rudder (3-4%) still makes formation flying and aiming difficult. The Reversal Bug in the throttle and proppitch (throttle, R1 or R2, 3%) makes formation flying difficult. My spikes started appearing after 40-60 flight hours (on both sets - returned the first, modded the second)...

With my modding I am now quite happy.

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Yes, many posts so I guess you did not read mine saying that my 1.5 year old set had bad spikes on R1 and R2 like pupo162:s when moving the right stick. Noticed it as 4.10 brought the axis for radiator which I assigned to R1 that I hadn't used yet and thats when I got confused. Had not used R1 and R2 before so I don't know if the error was there from start ;) I got my replacement last week and it has no problems on any axis (have tried the pedals for a long time in the windows setup dialog, fast or slow but they move like on rails in the calibrate dialog - which goes for the throttle to - nice steady axis with no spikes at all). Maybe they have fixed it as this set is brand new? I cannot find any manufacture date on it - anyone knows it there are different hardware revisions and how to see that?

EDIT: My old set had the P/N 842-000002 - and the new one has 842-000004. Could that indicate some change? What do you guys have?

A note to any new G940 users that may read this. DO NOT forget to calibrate the throttle and joystick in the windows device dialog like we did in the old days. The throttle axis, R1,R2, the three trim wheels and the mini stick NEED calibration or otherwise they will not work good and act weird. This is especially noticeable on the throttle axis!

Real aircraft controls aren't that precise at all - you would be surprised how many reversal bugs are on real aircraft. A good pilot can adjust his flying accordingly and fly with anything.

You might have a point there :grin:... I have no idea. I am sim only.

But (a small, humble 'but'): Imprecision of controls is one thing (i.e. slack in cables, elasticity, etc.) and a software in a 'fly by wire' system, which wrongly interpretes what you want (i.e. trimming elevator "..., 51%, 52%, 53% - oh! too much - and trying to go back to 52% gives you 49% and trying to compensate that gives you 53% again, and so on, back and forth) is something different.

I just hated that. Felt like an idiot trying to keep alongside...

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I'm not quite sure that some of you guys understand when the reversal bug really is.

These two videos demonstrate it. The first one is recent and shows the reversal bug on the R2 trim axis of the throttle. The second video is old before the 12/2010 firmware update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZlUWwOJUN0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiwyBM7PXEo

Has the "new" stick still been behaving properly? I have been considering one of these and am hoping that Logitech will fix the wiring that's causing the rotary spiking

Wait...?!

Are you saying that when you increase the throttle SLOWLY in IL2 1946...
...it does NOT jump 1-3? (but instead goes in smooth 1% increments)

Are you saying that when you SLOWLY reverse the throttle in IL2 1946...
...it does NOT jump 2-6%? (but instead goes back the single 1%)


When I started out, I thought my bad aim at high speeds were due to
my lacking skills... I did not realize that there was a quite major flaw
in the G940 compounding the problem. While the reversal bug has been
fixed for the X/Y axis on the stick(via a firmware update which is all but
easy to find), ALL other analogues still have this glitch. While not a big
thing for a newbie, it WILL annoy the HECK out of you as you improve.

What is worse, is that Logitech has been working on a fix for this since
they released the stick. Furthermore they give close to no feedback on
what the plans/schedules are. So, don't count on the rest of the axis
being fixed.

The really appalling flaw of the G940 is that one of the cables going from
the buttons on throttle to its base, are 1cm too short and made from
a brittle material. Meaning after about 4-6 months of use, you will start
seeing R1&R2 jitter as you move the throtte(and thus the cables) back
and forth. While this is not hard to fix, it is a defect by design.


In short...
- The G940 is overprised!
- Has a design flaw which WILL break the throttle automatically.
- Has a bug which remains un-fixed after 2 years.
- The profiler(which binds the keys etc) is adequate at best, but actually rather "sub par"
- There is close to NO information from Logitech and they are SLOW to produce Software.
+ The Logitech phone support is very professional and serviceminded.
+ The only HOTAS FFB stick on the market.
+ Once you figure out how to fix the wires in the throttle, it is a sturdy piece of EQ.
+ Once you resign to throttle frenetically up and down to get to specific percentages
or RPMs, the reversal bug on the throttle is nothing more than a constant inconvenience.

Great video examples, thanks for the information. I can imagine that would be a nightmare to work with!

Cheers, MP

Moderators... Troll alert!


Arrow...
What does real life controls have to do with a piece of equipment for a computer?!
Would you accept the mouse jumping 3-4 cm on your screen whenever you reversed direction?

+ Or: Once you bought and conncted two of Leo Bodnar's controllers to throttle, rudder, breakes, wheels, and trims (=10 axes), you can be quite happy with it - I am...

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