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:) My thoughts are split,i would like to see some sort of historical order BUT i think Oleg needs to sell to the most favourable money making market to keep the business going and added to.
Also ,i would assume what is already modelled and can be utilised quickly in the next sim with as little development as possible.

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Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt (Post 200757)

I won't get bored simply because of the new mechanics and systems we will have in SoW, regardless of theater.

Now, what i would want to see as follow-ups? I'm interested to see the Korean expansion. Spanish civil war will be cool too for the reasons mentioned.

As i'm from Greece, the mediterranean seems interesting to me as well. The air war during the original Italian invasion in 1940 was not that widespread (the Greek air force suffered a lot of trouble with maintenance, muddy airfields, etc, so they didn't fly as much as they would want to), there were a lot of insane stunts being pulled (e.g., a guy ran out of ammo shooting at an Italian bomber, so he went close and chewed up its elevators with his propeller, crash landed next to it and took the crew prisoners), but the most interesting part would be the planeset.

The Greeks mostly flew PZL 24 F/G models, various French designs (like the twin engined Potez 63) and a few Hs 123s. There were RAF squadrons flying Gladiators (some high scoring RAF aces made their mark in this theater of operations as well), there was also a swordfish squadron and maybe a some Hurricanes (not entirely sure about Hurris though, as the timeframe was similar to the Battle of Britain and most of the modern fighters were kept back home for defence). Finally, the Italian air force used CR 32, C 42 and all those interesting bombers.

I seriously doubt we'll see the initial battle in Greece and the Balkans make an appearance due to the one-sided nature of affairs (the axis forces had a huge advantage), maybe the map will only involve Crete, but the planesets sure are interesting with a mix of everything, from SCW era fighters and biplanes to cutting edge designs for the time, like 109s, often serving in opposing sides. The Yugoslavian air force for example had BF109s, imagine the confusion if flying online and you see Yugoslav 109s intercepting German Stukas, the Greeks had some Henschels and even some WWI Breguet 19 biplanes were around :grin:

I don't expect to see it but i don't really mind either to be honest since i mostly fly German aircraft. Just making sure the early war fans know about it, in case they are interested ;)

However, my dream scenario would be a 1:1 scaled map that covers most of Europe, because it will be able to see use for every operation from 1940 until the end of the war. I know this is a far stretch for the combination of SoW's quality and our current PCs, but maybe in 3-5 years it will be possible to run it at acceptable frame rates. I'm just thinking about flying in a 24/7 dynamic online campaign, with night and day bomber raids, radar intercepts, blind navigation and bombing, nightfighters, day fighters under ground radar control, etc....from the 1942 channel front to the end of the strategic bomber campaign and from raiding targets in Norway with Mosquitos to hunting shipping in the Bay of Biscay with Ju88s. Maybe maps could be "joined" online so that when one reaches the boundary of the map, a bit of hard disk loading later you spawn in the next one, this way you could start from the mediterranean map and fly bombing sorties against targets in Austria, souther Germany or even recreate the Ploesti raids.

I know, my imagination is running wild here, but it's not like i'm demanding anything...just tossing ideas around in case something sticks :grin:

Hello,

Have you tried the old "Fights in the Balkans" static campaign?? It covers the Albanian campaign of the Regia Aeronautica vs. the PZLs of the Greek air force on one of the old dogfight maps. It's not entirely historical but it IS a riot. I looked for a link on M4T but couldn't find anything. PM me if you are interested.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

Interesting, didn't know there was such a thing. I will check it out if you PM me a link or some info. Thanks in advance :grin:

I have no problem with a chronological release of the various theaters of combat...However, I have always wished for "the Spanish civil war" and the 1937 Chinese/Japanese theater.

Furthermore, I hope that an equal amount of detail and effort is put into each theater release. IMO "IL2's Pacific" games where a bit weaker then the European theater games. The initial lack of the Chinese theater (even the Flying Tiger's campaign could have been so much better)...the absence of the Ki-44 and the "blue Ki-61 cockpit" come to mind.

The Spanish civil war, like the Sino-Japanese war...had an exciting choice of different aeroplanes to fly. I doubt that their have been many other theaters of war that involved so many different aeroplanes designs by so many different company's (country's)...American, Russian, British, French and the Italians all had designs in the melee.

My vote for Spain.

Not only Luftwaffe learned things on Spain, you are forgetting the best of the moment in VVS was sent to Spain also, and the learnings from Spain lead on the later develop of VVS. Without that may be Russia weren't able to defeat Luftwaffe in the sky even outnumbering it. Remember also Type 5-10 I-16 and SB M-100 was the mayor component of VVS even at Barbarossa, same that was in Spain!! Sure modelling that aircrafts will not be a waste of time for later add-ons :).

S!

Very interesting results !!

My major interest is in mediterranean-north africa conflict.Dont remember any simulator that covered this scenerario with depth.

I always liked Pacific, but if we dont have more decent carrier ops with ground crew, and torpedo bomber aircrafts from both sides, i have noh interest at all. IL-2 cover the rest more than enough for me.

Didn't voted Korea because we already know that is development, even if its stalled to rush BoB, we will have it later. I just hope that when Luthier makes Korea, we will have carrier ops and a deep simulation of the ground war, facets never decently simulated on any previous sim of the Korean War.

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Originally Posted by II/JG54_Emil (Post 200690)

I would like to fly on all fronts.

Same.

Maybe France and Spain would be great to be the next,since there isn´t at all France and Spain in IL2.

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Originally Posted by bf-110 (Post 201007)

Same.

Maybe France and Spain would be great to be the next,since there isn´t at all France and Spain in IL2.

I thought that "France/Spain" was a strange combo...they have a different place in the time-line and different geography. I'm not really sure, I see why, they where paired.

;)

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Originally Posted by proton45 (Post 201131)

I thought that "France/Spain" was a strange combo...they have a different place in the time-line and different geography. I'm not really sure, I see why, they where paired.

;)

Immediately adjoining maps and covers two of the three major conflicts immediately PRIOR to the Battle of Britain (Poland is the third).

Assuming you are resisting the online-driven tendency of flight sims to always progress further forward along the time line to faster and heavier armed it does seem a logical addon.