Well, besides the different pros and cons of an open beta, there are indeed some social factors to consider. And I have to agree with you, that this community does not distinguishing itself as a mature or social group - even beyond the yellow forum-site borders.
I didn't think it would get worse than calling a forum UBIZoo, but if that's a zoo, this is Yellowrassic Parc - much louder, much bigger mouths, but mostly without teeth or enough brains to peel a banana. :-P

Developers can't stop leaks of their games when they send the final release to the distributor. We've all seen download releases available on the web, before they were in the stores.

Oleg has probably had enough...Piracy of his IL2 code.

It isn't a bad idea. It's just that we all know you can't trust people to do the right thing.

Here we do have updates on a regular basis and developers have good discussion with forum members.

All the other air sim forums, link into our update threads weekly. This forums is the information source for everything about BOB SOW and TD upgrades.

This is Yellowrassic park?

Forums are designed to facilitate discussions, nothing more.

I'm sorry. My interpretation of "discussion" of facts and related knowledge exchange does not cover what is going on here.

Besides that, the first two points are not related to your final statement.

That this is the only source of information and other sites HAVE to link here, is due to the fact that Maddox Games has a close relationship with 1C, not because Oleg likes the forum color or what is going on here.


The fact that Oleg keeps posting here despite the things going on is not something this community can be proud on. It's Oleg who deserves the respect to come here again and again, knowing he gets his screenshots of his beloved sim rubbed in his face in a weekly interval.

He was talking about us i.e. The whinning not Oleg and his team...

Open beta releases could have suicide procedures built in -- self-termination after a certain date, after a certain number of hours or frames etc. etc. Considering that codebreakers like nothing more than a challenge, the encryption in IL2 stood up pretty well and securing a beta is a much easier job. Plus it could be radically stripped down, omitting much of the actual content.

It's a good idea if you ask me, though whether it's worth the hassle is anybody's guess -- testers would need to work on reproducing problems reliably and make sure they're not logging duplicate bugs etc.

Team Daidalos has demonstrated that community involvement needn't compromise either quality or 1C's commercial interests.

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Feuerfalke; comments degrading the forum don't help do they? Posts that compare this place to the ubizoo only serve to belittle the forum and make you just as bad as the 'whiners'. Just rise above it, isolate the individuals who do whine, and they'll realise where they are wrong and hopefully stop.
There is only arguments like these around when a) people make posts like yours and b) there are weekly updates. I have found all the other discussion on here to be very mature.

Your contribution to the forums is what you make of it, in discussion with other members.

Who cares what color the site? Mellow yellow, or ruby red... the words are the words.

This is a very viable forums for discussions about BOB SOW and TD upgrades. Regardless, of your perceived reasons for that... it still is what it is.

I'm sure there is a more perfect way to do things. No sense going there, because this forums is what it is for now.

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True, ha ha:grin: