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Robotic Pope 06-13-2010 03:35 AM

Haha found it. I was right. Page 13 http://www.enginehistory.org/Convent...ingAllison.pdf

The post war, two stage supercharged allison engine doesn't have a carburetor and so doesn't need the air intake. Well that was fun detective work, gave me something to do while watching Le Mans 24h lol

Balderz002 06-13-2010 01:34 PM

Why I dislike IL-2 games..

Because I just got beaten by some bloke flying an A-20 on a realistic dogfight with my useless ass sat in an La-5FN.............. boo hoo. He beat me 5-4.......

Crosshair14 06-13-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Balderz002 (Post 164287)
Why I dislike IL-2 games..

Because I just got beaten by some bloke flying an A-20 on a realistic dogfight with my useless ass sat in an La-5FN.............. boo hoo. He beat me 5-4.......

There's somlething called rear gunner. Thye protect the ass of the bomber so thats part of the reason y he got u. The last part is that the A-20 is very Manueverable and swung in head on or behind u and blasted your plane to hell with its powerful front guns.

P.S. I feel another long post by Soviet Ace.

Soviet Ace 06-13-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balderz002 (Post 164287)
Why I dislike IL-2 games..

Because I just got beaten by some bloke flying an A-20 on a realistic dogfight with my useless ass sat in an La-5FN.............. boo hoo. He beat me 5-4.......

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Originally Posted by Crosshair14 (Post 164293)
There's somlething called rear gunner. Thye protect the ass of the bomber so thats part of the reason y he got u. The last part is that the A-20 is very Manueverable and swung in head on or behind u and blasted your plane to hell with its powerful front guns.

P.S. I feel another long post by Soviet Ace.

Damn my inability to be somewhat discreet....:cool:

Anyway, to fix that Balderz, just sort of use hit and run tactics on the guy. Or better yet, come across him from his left or right, and just open up on him freely. You should get some vital hits that way, and then when you're away, punch the throttle and climb. Another way, is to come across him from ten or two o' clock. If he sees this, he'll probably start heading straight onto you and you'll have a little game a chicken... just hope that you've already opened up on him as he's turning to meet you, and when you've either downed him or he starts opening up, once again punch the throttle and climb. You always want altitude advantage when you're plane is not a heavily armed plane like the La-5 or Yaks, and you can use speed to your advantage.

It's what I do on bombers in '46, and I've toyed around with it on BoP before I stopped playing. It works if you've got a fare player, and if he's flying a Havoc, you shouldn't have to worry.

FOZ_1983 06-14-2010 06:57 PM

As appealing as it may look, getting on the 6 of a big target, DONT DO IT!!

Do as suggested and attack from angles, thus avoiding being in a direct line of sight for gunners for a prolongued period of time. Speed is your friend ;)

Crosshair14 06-14-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 164451)
As appealing as it may look, getting on the 6 of a big target, DONT DO IT!!

Do as suggested and attack from angles, thus avoiding being in a direct line of sight for gunners for a prolongued period of time. Speed is your friend ;)

but what happens if the plane has a ball turret and side gunners? Attack from the above and attack below.

olife 06-14-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Balderz002 (Post 164287)
Why I dislike IL-2 games..

Because I just got beaten by some bloke flying an A-20 on a realistic dogfight with my useless ass sat in an La-5FN.............. boo hoo. He beat me 5-4.......

hello,

i think the light(example:il10)or the heavies(example:a20)are really outclassed in this game:impossible to attack it behind cause the rear gunner can open the fire in the dead angles!!!!totaly not realistic!!if during ww2 the bombers were as dangerous as in il2 game i think all the countries in war stopped to built fighters and built only a bombers!!
...in the front attack many bombers have a great fire power too and equal to the fire power of the fighter or same better(il10 with guns and rockets!!!)!!!!lo!!!crazy
but i think it is a question of tacticals and the player in the fighter must find a way to destroy the bomber...it is not easy but a good challenge and a good way to progress...
during the game i do versus the bombers i try to do a boom and zoom attack
and i must say i use rockets versus the bombers,only for one reason:i find that the bombers are outclassed in this game...but it is just my opinion...

bobbysocks 06-14-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by olife (Post 164459)
....and i must say i use rockets versus the bombers,only for one reason:i find that the bombers are outclassed in this game...but it is just my opinion...

watch out doing that, my friend.

FOZ_1983 06-14-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crosshair14 (Post 164453)
but what happens if the plane has a ball turret and side gunners? Attack from the above and attack below.

I didnt fancy writing a long reply, so just used "angles" so that it meant attack from everywhere, high and low haha. Sorry for not making it clear.

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Originally Posted by olife (Post 164459)
hello,


during the game i do versus the bombers i try to do a boom and zoom attack
and i must say i use rockets versus the bombers,only for one reason:i find that the bombers are outclassed in this game...but it is just my opinion...

Can see a post from Branko coming ;) haha.

Crosshair14 06-15-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 164479)
I didnt fancy writing a long reply, so just used "angles" so that it meant attack from everywhere, high and low haha. Sorry for not making it clear.



Can see a post from Branko coming ;) haha.

Do u see the future or something? O NO I feel that feeling too.O.O


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