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winny 02-28-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kozzm0 (Post 146803)
anyone who gets all worked up about not getting credit for kills is wasting their time. Even if you got credit for all kills, the scoring system is still so screwed up that online pickup games are nothing at all like real air combat. There is no incentive to not die. So if you worry about getting 20 kills every round, minus 20 points for the 20 deaths you suffered to get those 20 kills, all to win the round with 80 points, you are training to be a terrible pilot.

A while ago I decided screw the most kills, screw the leaderboards, and started concentrating on two things:

1) get the least deaths
2) get a positive kill/death differential

Since not every kill is credited, it's even more of a challenge to keep deaths under kills and have fewest deaths both in the same round. So I tended to get fewer points, but for some reason I moved up the dogfight board anyway.

I try to do this in most online games. MW2 is a good example, I get no pleasure from 17 kills 15 deaths. I'd rather come out with 9 -4 or something.

Same applies to IL-2. In sim especially. I managed a 5-3 in a 20 min match yesterday and was quite proud of myself. (it's a lot better than the usual 3-10)

The bailing out thing is all good and well but personally I try and keep the plane in the sky, if someone else 'explodes' me when I'm a sitting duck then they deserve the kill. A kills not a kill until they've been killed. I've also noticed that what feels like terminal damage can be overcome if you've enough altitude to recover. I like dropping my gear if the engines gone so whoever is shooting at me gets the full WWII experience!

For me this game is primarily about the flying, whatever the condition of the plane. I'd rather go out in a big ball of fire thanks.

Dr. Laplace 02-28-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotic Pope (Post 146528)
Fixed it for you, my good Docter of BS ;)

Muchas Gracias, my friend.:grin:

Robotic Pope 03-01-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowcorp (Post 146806)
.... like i said PS3 exclusive patch makes me right, ask any one who flys against me in REALISTIC as this is what the thread refers too they will agree, also in REALISTIC when you bail out of a plane it dissappears as a target, so all you have just said about simulator may be true but but not in the context of what i'm talking about.
You do not understand because you haven't got the patch that makes such things possible, I'm sure your opinion enlightens xbox users but don't talk about the ps3 and it's users when it is blatant you have no experience of how the patch works.
I'd rather give someone a kill by bailing out (if the opportunity presents) then crashing . It may not work that way with you or on the xbox but it is possible on the ps3...... rather than battle a dying aircraft i bail out, i'm not going to get another killl when my wing is so full of holes it's impossible to turn any direction but left or when my engine is little more than inertia spinning my prop.
I understand what you're saying kozz, i strive for that same also but i find my kills to death and deaths very much depend on whom i'm flying against; when dkwookie davedog74 gilly and mkinny are around my k/d is closer 1 but when their not around sometime i can get 7 to 1. I play this game for fun not leaderboards i'll build my own in realistic too if there is enough people who want to sign on

Really? Where did it say PS3 patch people only in this thread? Your original comment is therefor only half correct as you said nothing about PS3 patch only. And for the other half (360 users) its worse than staying in the plane and giving the guy shooting more time to "KILL" you. I agree I didn't know that on Patched PS3 bailing out ALWAYS gives the shooter the kill. But then you too seemed to be oblivious to the fact that bailing out is bad form for xbox users or even worse were discounting xbox users like they didn't exist.

I wouldn't have cared to reply to your first reply to me but I didn't apreciate being SHOUTED that I was WRONG! When you are just as wrong as I was.

Shadowcorp 03-01-2010 07:40 PM

Can we just stop this now, I should have known this would descend into a tit for tat exchange. I didn't realise you'd take it so personally; I apologise it wasn't my intention to offend, i was merely sating how to negate the no kill crash bug. Granted on the ps3... but i know nothing about xboxs and was never saying that i was making statements true of il2 on xbox; granted i didn't make it clear at all in my first post, however heres the quote from my second post "maybe thats not true on xbox but it's how it works on the ps3. Must be something to do with the ps3 exclusive patch".

I'm sorry to all xbox users you shouldn't listen to anything i say because it has exactly no bearing on you in any way. I am really enjoying ps3 realistic il2. I'm hope you enjoy the xbox il2 also.

Robotic Pope 03-01-2010 09:31 PM

Nice reply man, Respect. I'm sorry too, I guess the death of the 360 patch still gets me angryer whenever the P word is said lol

Separation of Xbox and PS3 users is the last thing this forum needs, I will continue to read threads about the game on PS3, aswell as your posts as they are well writen (when not shouting lol) and have interesting views on the game.

Afterall the patch may have changed somethings but the basic game is the same and in most cases an xbox user and a PS3 user can discuss the game without even having to mention what platform they are on.

Now to put the post on topic. I do play mostly sim, but realistic is still enjoyable for me when I'm with friends. One thing I did find very fun on realistic and a nice change after playing sim, was that you are much more able to single someone out. Sorry Bucketman but you had to pay for all those times youve team killed me :D

hurricane 03-02-2010 12:47 AM

never meant to shoot you pope i always forget whether freinds are blue or red

Robotic Pope 03-02-2010 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hurricane (Post 147158)
never meant to shoot you pope i always forget whether freinds are blue or red

Bucket??? Is that really you??? YAY!!! :grin: You've finally stopped lurking.


Oh and you are an awful liar lol.

hurricane 03-03-2010 07:55 PM

yep its me pope . on subject we do switch sometimes between sim and realistic . especially with subaru on .it can be fun and he doesnt take it too seriously.


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