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FOZ_1983 09-29-2009 01:01 AM

and the F4U corsair being the best fighter of the war?

hmmmmmm debatable!!


how would you class a fighter as the best?

on kills alone?
kill to death ratio?
armament?
speed?
manouvrability?
cost?


in all honesty their is no "best fighter of ww2" because for as long as humans are alive then they will always debate between many different choices.

try a poll just for peace of mind and give the choices as erm..... for example -

spitfire
mustang
109
corsair
zero

just 5 examples their and see what results you would get. I myself would choose the spitfire, but know for a fact many would disagree and then tell me im wrong and why they think "plane of choice" is better.

at the end of the day.... each to their own :D

Soviet Ace 09-29-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 106090)
i hold my hand up, i do love talking about the hurricane, and also taking the piss out of the ruski planes....but all in good jest.

I know how good the hurri really is and as the war goes one what duties it can do better than the other. I also know how good the ruski crates are, i just like to have some banter with soviet ace about them. Im a huge fan of the hurrie, i will defend it where and when i can. But in a dogfight... 9/10 i will take a spitfire. Because i know as much as i like my hurricane, it just lacks in some areas.

The russian planes are good at what they are meant to do...... be fast and agile, or slow and heavy (Yak/IL2)


on topic...soviet, yes i know exacly what you mean :D

Exactly my point. Enjoying one or several planes of one side does not make you bias. I enjoy Soviet Planes more than British or American planes, but I still enjoy learning and reading about all nations planes. I just prefer the Soviet planes over the others.

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Originally Posted by mattd27 (Post 106091)
Yes, I was reading about that. I found it quite funny how it was a huge moral loss for the germans that they were being shot down and killed by woman. :D

And yes, many of the women became aces within a day! But sadly one of the best women pilots to grace the Easter skies was killed :(

dazz1971 09-29-2009 01:08 AM

i tottaly agree with soviot ace

i think it was amazing that the russians built such good planes i mean at one point in the war the were litarally being exterminated were on the brink of starvation fighting for there very surviaval

if any of you have seen the film enermy at the gate ?? they were so short on guns and ammo the would give one guy a rifle and the other guy a clip of ammo and told him when the first guy is shot u pick up his rifle and cary on fighting !!!! so for them to turn the tide around and push the germans back and then take the fight all the way back to berlin was amazing :cool:

just my 2 cents

tango2delta 09-29-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mattd27 (Post 106091)
Yes, I was reading about that. I found it quite funny how it was a huge moral loss for the germans that they were being shot down and killed by woman. :D

Yes the W.A.S.P, Valentina Grizodubova, Lily Litvyak, Marina Raskova all where great pilots. The germans pilots i think called them something else, Anybody Know?

Pubestien13 09-29-2009 01:28 AM

All you're doing is proving me right. You're obsessed with russian planes.

Soviet Ace 09-29-2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tango2delta (Post 106099)
Yes the W.A.S.P, Valentina Grizodubova, Lily Litvyak, Marina Raskova all where great pilots. The germans pilots i think called them something else, Anybody Know?

I dunno if the German pilots had a nickname for the women, but Lily Litvyak, was called the "White Rose of Stalingrad". I'm not actually sure how that came around, but I think it was because her plane usually had a white rose painted on either the nose cowling, or some where else?

Soviet Ace 09-29-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pubestien13 (Post 106101)
All you're doing is proving me right. You're obsessed with russian planes.

Your absolutely right. I am obsessed with Russian Planes. But if this was a forum on Pacific planes, then I would totally be talking about A6M2 and M5 Zeros. It's all a matter of preference.

You your self are biased against me for liking Russian planes, so I think it evens out? Don't you?

FOZ_1983 09-29-2009 01:32 AM

check mate. :P

mattd27 09-29-2009 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tango2delta (Post 106099)
Yes the W.A.S.P, Valentina Grizodubova, Lily Litvyak, Marina Raskova all where great pilots. The germans pilots i think called them something else, Anybody Know?

They called some of them "Night Witches" I believe? Because they did a lot of bombing raids during the night presumably.

Soviet Ace 09-29-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mattd27 (Post 106112)
They called some of them "Night Witches" I believe? Because they did a lot of bombing raids during the night presumably.

Oh he's right. They called the 558th Night Bomber Regiment which would later become known as the 46th Guards Night Bomber Regiment. It was an all women's regiment.

Good going Matt. I even had to look it up in my book on Soviet Aces, just to make sure.


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