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jasonbirder 12-12-2007 01:00 PM

Its quite simple…there is no spinning of the issue
The No CD Hack/Patch (Call it what you will) was user created…not official at the point it was initially released UBI had an extremely strong policy against it…(naturally enough Hacks that by pass Copy Protection are a very real threat to a software publishers revenue stream…and the only form of “mod” they are likely to have a strong policy about)
Discussion of it was banned on Ubi.com, users asking about were warned…repeat offenders were given two week cooling off periods, threads were locked, discussions deleted…this was the state of play for some time…
More recently, following newer releases and direct download releases which didn’t require the CD to be kept in the drive, UBI changed its policy and made the No CD patch available to users. (Though not the No DVD patch for 1946)
But for the majority of its life the No CD Hack was completely unofficial and resolutely opposed by UBI…
But strangely enough there was no outcry from the online community about its existence!

ElAurens 12-12-2007 04:55 PM

More obfuscation.

The noCD/DVD has nothing to do with a decompiler that opens the SFS files and allows unauthorized hacking.

This and only this is the crux of this issue.

Sometimes I really wish the CFS series would have been more successful, because all you modder types would never have come here.

JG52Uther 12-12-2007 05:30 PM

The no DVD file is still an unauthorised hack.
Hands up who uses it!

Thrud 12-12-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by carguy_ (Post 30780)
That`s too naive...are you suggesting that you can dig out anyone who lightened his plane by few hundred kg or added few hundred horsepower?It is close to impossible.The server does not see the difference and you won`t either, even if you monitored the same trk over and over.Because AFAIK there is no utility that monitors flying parameters depending on a trk.As an experienced online pilot I know what a subtle and impossible to detect change in flight parameters can do - I can give myself a slight parameter advantage and win just about every engagement.You will not be able to prove that I modified something, ever. .

before i answer that, do you know the context of my comment? do you know the server that Zap and were talking about and the rules and methods we use on that server?

Quote:

Great, you`re not worried.Just stop misinforming the folks here.
Lets start out that there was a cheat proof system before.None of those cheats were able to ruin the play.They were easily detectable.
there were ways to cheat before the code was accessed "openly". the cheaters haven't changed, just the tools. Is your ego that fragile that you can't stand being shot down? surround yourself with people you trust, fly with friends. yes i'm not worried.

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You support the very destruction of this sim`s fundamental coding design.

You destroy the fun for a group of people and tell them to deal with it themselves.
i support people doing what they want with a product they bought as long as they don't make money off of it. (modding it and selling it as something else). i support you painting/modding your own car. i support you cutting the legs off your pants and wearing them as shorts. (as long as you don't sell them under the brand "carguy shorts")

relax, the modders are only hurting those with fragile online egos that can't find friends to fly with. stay cool in those modded pants ;-)


oh, btw

Quote:

Overweight people actually don`t hurt you at all, the don`t spoil your meaning of life or anything, well maybe your esthetic sense but that is their business if they eat too much.

Hence that analogy is flawed also.
they don't hurt me physicaly,(unless next to them in coach class) but the do hurt my pocket book when they raise all my insurance rates to deal with the heathcare costs of dealing with the health issues that come with being overweight. i have a few overweight buddies that i'd like to take flying with me but i can't due to the weight and balance limitations of the plane i fly.

Baron 12-12-2007 06:12 PM

I wonder what the promodders will come up with next?

By all means, keep the smokescreens comming.


As said before, "we" can all use a good laugh.




The first modder who says "yes, i use mods and yes i know its wrong and yes its unfair to Oleg" would atleast get the respect from beeing honest.



BTW. take a look at this....missed it myselfe untill today.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/7011013516

BSS_Sniper 12-12-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 30812)
The no DVD file is still an unauthorised hack.
Hands up who uses it!


You're wrong.....check the link at ubi.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...116#9031092116

Golden_Eagle_FM 12-12-2007 06:40 PM

WOW!! That is really a successfull thread.
I would have never imagined that it would spark such a long debate.
At least it shows that there are diverging opinions on the subject.

If I look to the hit ratio of this thread it is of 464 replies on 10620 views. This makes for a 4.4% rate.
If I take the Oleg Maddox Room thread then we have 480 replies on 60713 views that makes for 0.8% rate which is worse by a factor of 550%.
If I take the Oleg Maddox News thread then the rate is catastrophic at 2 replies on 34893 views which boils down to a mere 0.000057% or worse by a factor of 7676460%.
Oleg is really bad, bad, bad on communication.
He should have the best hit rate of all. This is sad.

Gold

Baron 12-12-2007 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden_Eagle_FM (Post 30820)
WOW!! That is really a successfull thread.
I would have never imagined that it would spark such a long debate.
At least it shows that there are diverging opinions on the subject.

If I look to the hit ratio of this thread it is of 464 replies on 10620 views. This makes for a 4.4% rate.
If I take the Oleg Maddox Room thread then we have 480 replies on 60713 views that makes for 0.8% rate which is worse by a factor of 550%.
If I take the Oleg Maddox News thread then the rate is catastrophic at 2 replies on 34893 views which boils down to a mere 0.000057% or worse by a factor of 7676460%.
Oleg is really bad, bad, bad on communication.
He should have the best hit rate of all. This is sad.

Gold

Not intierly sure what u are trying to say.

Oleg Maddox News is a non active thread and locked.

In Oleg Maddox Room he have made quite a few posts actually. He got a higher postcount than me infact. ( not saying much, i know, but still. )

Baron 12-12-2007 07:12 PM

Oh, and i hate to be the one killing of this topic (muahahaha)...but.


http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2384

GOZR 12-12-2007 07:26 PM

Using disrespect language to express an opinion in favor or against mods/hacks/originals or FM is not a good way to do so..

If you desire to use this kind of behaviors just simply use PM's

Is it that hard to explain yourself with out going to the easy way of bad language to each others ?
Thx


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