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zapatista 01-08-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stalkervision as jasonbirder' alter ego
actually my logic is impecable zap it's your's that needs a major tunup bud-dy. Cheating is cheating no matter what devices you use to accompolish it...

an anology. You are taking a test and you cheat by first writing the answers on a small paper and hide it in your shoe which you use during the test. Another person HACKS the schools computer and rewrites his test score to show an "a" What is the difference?

apparentky your the person that needs a stranger to point out your arguments logical fallacies..

your complete lack of being able to understand even basic concepts is absolutely stunning, are you just pretending to be this thick or is this the real deal of what goes on inside your head ?

the comparison being made was between somebody using the printscreen key to cause some lag online, and on the other hand the situation we have now with the il2 code being completely blown open so everything can be edited with a few simple cut and pastes, including the plane DM and FM, weapons loads etc..

you really cant spot the difference there ? maybe need to call a friend to understand that profound comparison ?


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Originally Posted by jasonbirder (Post 33515)
steal (TAKE AWAY) Show phonetics
verb [I or T] stole, stolen
1 to take something without the permission or knowledge of the owner and keep it:

So what exactly has a Mod user taken?

yes promoting the hacks is stealing from oleg, and using them online in full real servers is equal to lying and cheating. there is no clean end to pick up a turd, its always still a turd.

since you cant seem to understand what stealing actually means even after looking it up in a dictionary, just imagine if all the current on sale copies of 1946 had a sticker added to them saying "this game has now been completely hacked open and vandalized by spotty faced teens, whenever you use it online it will be impossible for you to fly and compete in a fair environment", do you think that will increase or decrease sales ?

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Originally Posted by jasonbirder (Post 33515)
So Offline players are responsible for causing Online Cheating?
I'd be interested in you explaining the mechanism for that...
If not, then as I said...the problem with online cheating is caused solely by and is solely the responsibility of, online players...

and off he goes again proudly trumpeting his ignorance as if all logic and reasoning has been banished from the planet.

just in case you still cant actually understand the very simple issue that is going on here. nobody cares if you and your pocket pool playing chummies stick your 1946 dvd's in the microwave and watch them catch on fire, the problem is that the hacking of the il2 files and its widespread availability has also ruined the online competitive flying environment for many other il2 users.

ahh but thats right, you dont actually care about others.

zapatista 01-08-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 33513)
Not really zap.As I said above,not all is as it seems in these threads,and,in light of a few pm's I and some others have received recently,confirming what I have suspected for some time,I am not going to play this little game anymore.As I said,some people have another agenda here,and not all is as it seems.It takes 5 seconds for an anti-modder to log out of this forum and log in under a different name as a pro-modder.

your speaking in riddles, what are you rabbeting on about now ? if you have something you know, say it.

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 33513)
I myself have more than one name on this forum.I can easily start a five page rant with myself on sound modding if I want to.I agree with what they are trying to achieve,but not the way they are doing it..

to be clear, you are saying the pro-hack kiddies are using multiple logins to keep advertising their hacks here ?

JG52Uther 01-08-2008 03:03 PM

What,you don't understand that message?
Seems pretty plain to me.The only one keeping this thread at the top is you.And actually,some of the anti-modders here are in fact pro-modders,as if you did'nt already know that.Personally,I think you are a pro-modder,just here to cause trouble.And as I said (again) I am not playing anymore.Be as abusive as you like,maybe Evgeny will finally moderate this forum.
Bye bye

zapatista 01-08-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie (Post 33636)
Not at all jasonbirder.I am just interested in why you continue to post in this thread,which seems to be just for tracks of people cheating,when there is another thread running to talk about soundmodding/hacking.So why sre you posting in this thread,rather than the other one?

well if what uther said is correct, then jasonbird keeps posting just to advertise the hacks in olegs forum, so dont expect any logic or understanding from him.

Evgeny should dropkick the lot of them back over the fence and ban any advertising of hacks, the hack-kiddie post's sole purpose is to ruin the sim and vandalize olegs work.

zapatista 01-08-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 33734)
What,you don't understand that message?
Seems pretty plain to me.The only one keeping this thread at the top is you.And actually,some of the anti-modders here are in fact pro-modders,as if you did'nt already know that.Personally,I think you are a pro-modder,just here to cause trouble.

you've gone into lala cookoo land now. i only have one login here

ehumm and you yourself already said you have several names you use for login here , which isnt allowed under the forum rules, but that doesnt seem to bother you.

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 33734)
I myself have more than one name on this forum.

which is not surprising from somebody who pays the hackers, who'd expect you to stick to any other rules eh

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 33734)
Personally,I think you are a pro-modder,just here to cause trouble.

big accusations for somebody sitting miles away behind a computer screen in their bedroom.

prove it sunshine, or get back under your rock.

i only have one login here, and from the beginning i have had only one standpoint in this forum, which is that all this recent hack nonsense is ruining a great flightsim for those that are interested in fair play in a full real competitive online environment with other people from around the world.

i think it is also extremely rude of the hack kiddies to come here to olegs forum and advertise its use, how do you think oleg feels about his hard work being vandalized and destroyed in a few months. do you think this is what gives him the motivation to keep improving the sim and make it better ? do you think he can like magic assign a programmer to try and close the loopholes again and not loose any manpower for his work on BoB ? what are you prepared not to have included in BoB for the privilege of having the hack loophole closed again ? a few planes, maybe no dynamic campaign, whats your price uther ? or you think it all comes for free like mothers milk while you are in the crib ? or maybe the few grey cells you have think that the hack loophole shouldnt be closed, and for the next 9 months till we get BoB the full real competitive users should just go and do something else because that is more convenient for you. dont bother answering, i already know that whatever you'll answer will be selfish again, and wont provide any real solutions.

and this specific thread was started because a small group of the hack kiddies kept pretending it was impossible to use any of the hacks online, and that cheating was impossible.

the contrary has been amply proven by myself and a few others with numerous examples, and other than grounhog-boy who seems to have the attention span of a goldfish, the rest of the hack-kiddies have now migrated their argument to being "well we dont give a flying fu** about those that want to use il2 online in a full real setting", as long as they can create their franken planes and a few maps for their own selfish purpose.

Archie 01-08-2008 03:48 PM

I have read a few of the threads here now,and you zapitista are by far the most abusive member on this forum. i completely dis agree wit the hack,but you do your argument no favors with your abusiv posts. :(

zapatista 01-08-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie (Post 33744)
I have read a few of the threads here now,and you zapitista are by far the most abusive member on this forum. i completely dis agree wit the hack,but you do your argument no favors with your abusiv posts. :(

i am quite able to discuss things in a normal civilized manner when that is the level of communication that is happening.

but that is not the case here, it is a small group of hack kiddies who are deliberately advertising the hacks in olegs own forum, and after initially pretending it wasnt possible to use them online, they now quite openly say they dont mind ruining the sim for the rest of us.

so lets not pretend it is rain falling on your boots

Archie 01-08-2008 05:03 PM

What is 'rain faling on my boots mean? :confused:

JG52Uther 01-08-2008 05:06 PM

So zapatista,if you are so anti mod,you will be taking part in the anti cheat trials going on at ubi just now? Strange,I don't see your name there.What name are you using at ubi? And you seem to spend a lot of time at the mod forum,and know a lot about how to cheat in il2 so what name do you go under there? Something to hide?
Yes I have 1 other log in name,with one post to its credit.If Evgeny doesn't like it,I will provide him with the name and he can delete it.
And actually,I did say that I was leaving this useless trouble stirring thread,so again:
Bye bye.
zapatista The thread was nearly off the front page so just keep bumping it occasionally with some more bile and insults.Thanks.

Baron 01-08-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie (Post 33749)
What is 'rain faling on my boots mean? :confused:



Archie, maby he is slightly less than civil ( i know i was), but thats propably becaus he, like i, are completly fed up with people incapeble of simple 3:rd grade reasoning. Fed up with debating with people who can only see right from wrong if they themselfes gain something from it.

Personally i just stoped arguing with some of those people.


And some people (id bet there are only 2-3 modfriends in here with a gazillion personas shared between them) who by theire own admittens uses several login names is in no way shape or form in the position to judge anybody just because he dissegrees with him.

Maby thats what some of us are fed up with, people who dont know when to shut up..and think before they post instead of just rembling on and on.


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