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klem 02-22-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 226895)
+1 to the above.

I don't know what else can be said or done regarding the situation. None of us know what the reason is for the date change listed on some U.S. sites..........

Oleg's a Red.
Hoover has come back from the grave......
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst."

They'll probably slap a security tax in it too.

swiss 02-22-2011 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggaaar (Post 226890)

No it isn't. A stream is smaller than a river.

In German it's the other way around.

Gromic 02-22-2011 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss (Post 226996)
In German it's the other way around.

:confused:

Since when is a "Bach (stream)" larger than a "Fluss (river)"?

yours truely "perplexed"

Gromic

FG28_Kodiak 02-22-2011 10:17 AM

Stream also means Strom, and a Strom is larger than a river, in german.
Komm schließlich von da! ;)
But in English a Strom is called major or large river, so its a multiculti misunderstanding ;)

addman 02-22-2011 10:28 AM

Yeah, we have the word "ström" in Swedish. This is getting a bit off topic though.:)

Gromic 02-22-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FG28_Kodiak (Post 227007)
Stream also means
Komm schließlich von da! ;)

Geil, ich auch und sitze z.Z. 25km Südlich von Aschaffenburg in Bayern.

Anyway, I'm sure "stream", refers to small, winding bodies of water that usually intersect with a river, entity of water, etc.

Stream in the sense of "strom'"would pertain, for example, to the gulf stream which, IS much larger than a river.

hehe - sorry for going OT. Language can be fun.

cheers

Ploughman 02-22-2011 10:41 AM

In Yorkshire a very small stream would be called a beck, which seems so similar to your German bach they must be related.

True about the rivers, makes England look like the mouth of the Amazon. I know it rains here a bit, but not that much.

FG28_Kodiak 02-22-2011 11:34 AM

@gromic
Ich sitze so ziemlich genau in der Mitte zwischen Augsburg und Ulm ;)

So now BTT.

ArJay 02-22-2011 11:53 AM

Anyone knows if we'll be able to change subtitle language?

I'm from czech republic and I can preorder collector's edition here, but it will be english audio and czech subtitles. And I really don't want to have menus and briefings in czech. From my experience it tends to be confusing, when I'm more accustomed to specific terms in english.

stu babes 02-22-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 225757)
more shoots

very nice oleg ,,,very nice and well worth waiting for ,,,,but the under camo paint on the spits is wrong for the battle ,,all had beeen painted sky or duck eg blue by july,,except 92 sqdn who had sky underneath but the port wing was black and the roundel had a yellow outer ring

David603 02-22-2011 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu babes (Post 227098)
very nice oleg ,,,very nice and well worth waiting for ,,,,but the under camo paint on the spits is wrong for the battle ,,all had beeen painted sky or duck eg blue by july,,except 92 sqdn who had sky underneath but the port wing was black and the roundel had a yellow outer ring

I would not worry too much. Those are not the default skins, so I would expect that they have been included so that it is possible to make missions prior to the Battle of Britain.

philip.ed 02-22-2011 06:34 PM

With regards to serial number, if the game can't handle having a list of each serial number for every plane which flew in the battle (which is perfectly understandable) it would be quite cool if we were able to type a number in which would then appear as the serial code. Many people have access to the serial codes for particular planes which flew, so this would help to make the skin historically accurate.
It doesn't bother me personally, but I can see such a feature being useful if the game hasn't already been programmed with the known serial coded planes which flew (RAF).

The Kraken 02-22-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 227134)
it would be quite cool if we were able to type a number in which would then appear as the serial code.

The FMB may have changed since then, but anyway:

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/wp-conten...54735-copy.jpg

(just noticed there's only one slider for the weathering in this menu; maybe this has only been included afterwards)

philip.ed 02-22-2011 08:14 PM

Very interesting, thanks for that Kraken, I missed that. ;)
Great minds think alike :-P

Freycinet 02-23-2011 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ploughman (Post 227022)
In Yorkshire a very small stream would be called a beck, which seems so similar to your German bach they must be related.

Pretty sure you got that from us Danes during the Danelaw. Here we call it "bæk", and it is pronounced exactly as "beck".

NSU 02-23-2011 12:45 PM

here some nice detail screens from Luthier

http://www7.pic-upload.de/thumb/23.0...wk3r5ysa7g.jpg http://www7.pic-upload.de/thumb/23.0...frhw6fwgry.jpg http://www7.pic-upload.de/thumb/23.0...mxxcmngi35.jpg http://www7.pic-upload.de/thumb/23.0...jx51glc714.jpg


Link:
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthrea...t=67048&page=4

Sturm_Williger 02-23-2011 02:42 PM

Nice Rodolphe - that railroad track colour change really looks good !

NSU 02-23-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sturm_Williger (Post 227439)
Nice Rodolphe - that railroad track colour change really looks good !

you see better the different to the road

kestrel79 02-23-2011 03:43 PM

Wow are those screens taken in sim? Very detailed nice! They look like photographs.

Biggs 02-23-2011 05:10 PM

...Pegi 16 my arse! :cool:

this doesnt seem like it will be in game... I think they are talking about some calender with pin-up girls and renders of the planes in CoD.

I dont think this content will be found "in game"

The Kraken 02-23-2011 06:18 PM

This pics are great, but not from the in-game renderer, although they do obviously use the in-game models. I'm still hoping for some more complex lighting in the final game, as was shown in some previous shots (my very own pet peeve ;)). Makes a huge difference to the appearance and the result could be pretty close to what these screens show.

Oh and thanks to NSU for posting them!

Zorin 02-23-2011 06:53 PM

So a Russian girl is advertizing a game about a conflict between Great Britain and Germany wearing an American Betty Page outfit?? There is so much wrong with that...

KG26_Alpha 02-23-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodolphe (Post 227386)
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Changing the CoD dark blue stream colour to a greenish shade could be an "easy" solution to that issue.




And adding a rusty hue to the railway tracks. ;)

http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Stream4.jpg


http://users.teledisnet.be/web/mfe39146/Stream3.jpg




She won't bore you with those details ! ; ))



...





Also rail lines are highly reflective especially in moonlight, but i suspect that's too much to ask for :)



http://www.photographyblogger.net/wp...ad-tracks4.jpg




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ATAG_Doc 02-23-2011 08:49 PM

WW2 progressed the same way to. Russia grinding it out from the east and the allies from the west. Coincidental? Hardly think so. Me thinks Oleg is a romantic.

JG52Krupi 02-23-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 227512)
Also rail lines are highly reflective especially in moonlight, but i suspect that's too much to ask for :)



http://www.photographyblogger.net/wp...ad-tracks4.jpg




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Nice pic, surprised you could see it with your head in the clouds :P

Maybe in il2 version 3 in 2021 we might see that (now look whose head are in the clouds :rolleyes: )

C_G 02-23-2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meusli (Post 225961)
We should create a support thread for people with wives/girlfriends so that we can assemble the best excuses to get more game time. That and reasons for needing more computer equipment!

Meusli,

I found a work-around for the more computer equipment one: get a good case and just keep updating the innards...
I've done two complete upgrades in the last 5 years without my wife knowing :D
So long as I keep using the same case I don't think she'll ever suspect anything...

I did have to do the whole sales-job thing to get a new monitor though...

tourmaline 02-23-2011 09:46 PM

Was thinking the same thing...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gromic (Post 227003)
:confused:

Since when is a "Bach (stream)" larger than a "Fluss (river)"?

yours truely "perplexed"

Gromic


Triggaaar 02-23-2011 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FG28_Kodiak (Post 227007)
Stream also means Strom, and a Strom is larger than a river, in german.
Komm schließlich von da! ;)
But in English a Strom is called major or large river, so its a multiculti misunderstanding ;)

What?

If a 'Strom' is called a major or large river in English
and in English a stream is smaller that a river...

how does Stream mean Strom?

I don't speak German, but on the evidence posted I suggest that 'Stream' in English does not mean 'Strom' in German.

Someone posted, in English, that a stream was bigger than a river. They got it wrong, never mind, let's move on.

dali 02-23-2011 11:49 PM

@kg26_alpha - the photograph can't be compared to what human eye can see. I think too many people here rely solely or in major part to what they saw on the photos/film. In reality things look diferently. One clear example is the perception of depth (which you can't simulate on 2d screen) and it could be done as Rodolphe has shown, the other is perception how tracers realy look like. As far as dynamics of colors and or their hue/saturation, I'm afraid if the release date is realy 25th of March, then there is no time to change that. I'm no expert in programming, but I would presume this is major change in the rendering engine. But there are numerous posibilities on the graphic card settings though...

speaking of tracers - I've been shooting browning 12.7 mm MG from aircraft in my military days, and I can tell you, that they are very acurately modeled in IL-2 already, so I expect that they remain the same or better in COD.

Richie 02-24-2011 12:25 AM

Very high contrast B&W makes a huge difference in photography if that was a colour photograph the tracks wouldn't look so brilliant. It also would depend on the time of day, is it overcast or not etc.

kalimba 02-24-2011 12:17 PM

Landscape in CoD
 
By comparing real images of landscape and in-game sreen shots, my impression is that the obvious difference is in the "contour' definition of the roads, streets, tracks,etc...The blur on edges in CoD appears to me as the principal obstacle to photorealism...For you on this forum who have technical knowledge, is this a limitation of the code itself, or is it a way to preserve acceptable frame rates ?

Thanks ! :cool:

Salute !

Freycinet 02-24-2011 02:28 PM

Review on Gamer.ru:

http://gamer.ru/shtorm-voyny-bitva-z...a-za-britaniyu

Notice that you need to click some links to see many of the (lovely-looking) screenies.

Freycinet 02-24-2011 02:30 PM

BTW, very good to see the Focke-Wulf in CoD in the above link!

Hecke 02-24-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 227870)
BTW, very good to see the Focke-Wulf in CoD in the above link!

Where?

Sutts 02-24-2011 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 227869)
Review on Gamer.ru:

http://gamer.ru/shtorm-voyny-bitva-z...a-za-britaniyu

Notice that you need to click some links to see many of the (lovely-looking) screenies.

Nice find Freycinet! Some of the nicest shots I've seen yet.

Check out the loadout options guys....talk about attention to detail.:grin:

Nice one 1C.

brando 02-24-2011 05:20 PM

Only unused track carries a patina of rust on the upper surface. Rails in regular use are shiny. The sides of the track may be rusty but not the top. Regular use means one or two trains daily, that's all that's required to keep them polished.

It's a well-attested fact that the Luftwaffe bombers used the main rail routes as a navigation aids, at night as well as in the day. The eight polished rails of the four-track routes reaching from the South coast up to London were a fantastic guide on a moon-lit night, as was the river Thames on its curving path through London.

I have raised this point several times over the last few years and I hope some consideration may have been given to these permanent and obvious navigational aids

Sven 02-24-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 227877)
Where?

The FW-200, the 4-engined reconnaissance/long range bomber.

louisv 02-24-2011 06:27 PM

AKA the Condor

Freycinet 02-24-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 227877)
Where?

Just a test to see who knows their WWII planes. You failed. :)

Hecke 02-24-2011 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freycinet (Post 227976)
Just a test to see who knows their WWII planes. You failed. :)

Yes, indeed I failed.
When I read FW, I instantly thought of the FW-190, but couldn't find it for sure.

KG26_Alpha 02-24-2011 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=KG26_Alpha;227512]Also rail lines are highly reflective especially in moonlight, but i suspect that's too much to ask for :)

http://www.photographyblogger.net/wp...ad-tracks4.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 227555)
Nice pic, surprised you could see it with your head in the clouds :P

Maybe in il2 version 3 in 2021 we might see that (now look whose head are in the clouds :rolleyes: )

No idea what your on about, sorry.


Quote:

Originally Posted by dali (Post 227610)
@kg26_alpha - the photograph can't be compared to what human eye can see. I think too many people here rely solely or in major part to what they saw on the photos/film. In reality things look diferently. One clear example is the perception of depth (which you can't simulate on 2d screen) and it could be done as Rodolphe has shown, the other is perception how tracers realy look like. As far as dynamics of colors and or their hue/saturation, I'm afraid if the release date is realy 25th of March, then there is no time to change that. I'm no expert in programming, but I would presume this is major change in the rendering engine. But there are numerous posibilities on the graphic card settings though...

.

I know what they look like at night as I have flown over rail tracks many times, its more a wish list addition, if its already done then a bonus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brando (Post 227930)
Only unused track carries a patina of rust on the upper surface. Rails in regular use are shiny. The sides of the track may be rusty but not the top. Regular use means one or two trains daily, that's all that's required to keep them polished.

It's a well-attested fact that the Luftwaffe bombers used the main rail routes as a navigation aids, at night as well as in the day. The eight polished rails of the four-track routes reaching from the South coast up to London were a fantastic guide on a moon-lit night, as was the river Thames on its curving path through London.

I have raised this point several times over the last few years and I hope some consideration may have been given to these permanent and obvious navigational aids

Brando :)

Its along this well known fact that I was interested if 1C team had done any reflective work on the rail lines for CoD, it should a a given that the Rivers have it already modelled.
But if the rail banks have the wrong colour grass in Autumn it goes in the bin ;)




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McHilt 02-24-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 227979)
Yes, indeed I failed.
When I read FW, I instantly thought of the FW-190, but couldn't find it for sure.

Then mine has failed too, but tell me, where do you see a FW-200?
must be the interior cockpit shot with the copilot then I assume...
however pictures of FW-200 cockpits I've seen do not look like the screenshot
if you ask me...:confused:

kendo65 02-24-2011 07:35 PM

Check first pic here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...792#post227792

Beautiful shot by the way - one of my favourites.

Now if someone could make the FW-200 flyable!!!!!:grin:

McHilt 02-25-2011 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 227989)
Check first pic here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...792#post227792

Beautiful shot by the way - one of my favourites.

Now if someone could make the FW-200 flyable!!!!!:grin:


Now, that makes sense, thx

Indeed very nice to see a FW200 but honestly:
I can't wait to fly that su-26... beautiful shots!:grin:


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